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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

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    Look, go bother someone else with your ridiculousness. I'm trying to discuss the topic like an adult.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

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    Indeed. That was a contribution of rare insight.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Some people need to be put out of their misery. These arguments about "civilized people don't do that" and "we need to set an example" are ridiculous. Clearly, these people have never been affected by violent crime. As for the examples posted where victims of violent crimes are against the dp.. i don't care. This isn't about them and their revenge or healing process-- whatever it may be. It is about getting rid of people who are not worthy to exist.
    Some people need to be put out of society's misery, these criminals have not only committed crimes against another individual (or individuals), but against society itself. Society has every right to decide these people who have committed these crimes have lost their right to breathe the same air as decent people. It's about justice, not revenge.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Of course you do, it's not YOUR arse on the line. These appeals are in place for a reason. They are there to protect US, the United States citizen, to make sure we are not being railroaded, etc. It's like one of OUR rights to protect us. Sorry that so many of you don't understand that concept.
    Sure, I know better than to commit these crimes! The people on death row for capital crimes are not law-abiding citizens, they almost always have a rap sheet as long as your arm, in and out of prison for their entire lives, they are a threat to the United States Citizen, even if they didn't commit murder. I don't have to worry about that because I'm not a criminal. Too bad you don't understand that concept.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You know, you're really letting emotion overtake logic here. The only logical reason you would have for supporting the death penalty would be overcrowding in prisons. THAT is the only logical argument for it; every other argument for it is laden with emotion and knee jerk responses.
    Nonsense. And overplayed. Every time someone uses an example of the type of people who should receive the dp due to horrific crimes, those against the dp chime in with "you're just being emotional." That's their only retort. It's simply untrue. People who would rape and murder infants should not exist in the first place. But there's nothing that can change what they did, so erasing their existence is the closest option. If these individuals did not exist, the world would be a better place. And no, overcrowded prisons are not the only logical argument for the dp. Try a little harder.. seriously. Even I wouldn't argue that people should die because prisons are overcrowded.

    Secondly, those against the dp try to appear enlightened while arguing that those who support the dp are barbaric. Don't be so sure. These same people value worthless, depraved individuals. That, in no way, makes them enlightened.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Nonsense. And overplayed. Every time someone uses an example of the type of people who should receive the dp due to horrific crimes, those against the dp chime in with "you're just being emotional." That's their only retort. It's simply untrue. People who would rape and murder infants should not exist in the first place. But there's nothing that can change what they did, so erasing their existence is the closest option. If these individuals did not exist, the world would be a better place. And no, overcrowded prisons are not the only logical argument for the dp. Try a little harder.. seriously. Even I wouldn't argue that people should die because prisons are overcrowded.

    Secondly, those against the dp try to appear enlightened while arguing that those who support the dp are barbaric. Don't be so sure. These same people value worthless, depraved individuals. That, in no way, makes them enlightened.
    I don't think that anyone who is against the DP "values" these kinds of people. It is just extremely ineffective in every realm, as a deterrent, as being cost effective, etc., etc.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't think that anyone who is against the DP "values" these kinds of people. It is just extremely ineffective in every realm, as a deterrent, as being cost effective, etc., etc.
    The DP isn't meant to be a deterrent...
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't think that anyone who is against the DP "values" these kinds of people. It is just extremely ineffective in every realm, as a deterrent, as being cost effective, etc., etc.
    Yes, they do value them. They act concerned about these individuals being treated with dignity as if that should matter. They are not people. They are empty vessels which is why they suck the life out of others.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No it isn't. The logical argument is that to get rid of the death penalty saves money, and again there is the potential of executing innocent people. Why spend this money on executions when it could be spent in much more productive manner?

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    Wrong. The logical argument is to reduce cost and only execute those that are guilty beyond a doubt. This can be done too.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Yes, they do value them. They act concerned about these individuals being treated with dignity as if that should matter. They are not people. They are empty vessels which is why they suck the life out of others.
    No, the point is that the government should not be given the power to take human life at it's whim. It really has nothing to do with the individuals unless there is the chance they could be innocent like this guy. EVERYONE thought this guy was guilty. Thankfully, there was no death penalty in RI at that time, but if he had been in a death penalty state, his "alleged" crime most certainly could have been a death penalty case, and if the guy who truly was guilty never came forward Mr. Hornoff would probably STILL be in jail today. Thankfully, he was alive to be freed and try to live out his life.

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