View Poll Results: Do you support the death penalty?

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    50 33.33%
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    17 11.33%
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    4 2.67%
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    16 10.67%
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Thread: Death Penalty, for or against

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by B.L.Zeebub View Post
    what like you have special powers to bore people into submission
    He probably thinks so.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    He probably thinks so.
    Bandwagon!

    Chris lives again. Yay!

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Bandwagon!

    Chris lives again. Yay!
    Sorry, I don't suffer fools well.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You know, you're really letting emotion overtake logic here. The only logical reason you would have for supporting the death penalty would be overcrowding in prisons. THAT is the only logical argument for it; every other argument for it is laden with emotion and knee jerk responses.
    The emotional argument in this case would be that society "should" let a man who raped and killed a 6 month old live, because of an obligation to treat him humanely. He did not act humanely when he raped and killed a baby, thus deserves no humane treatment. The logical response would be to kill him. Logic implies that equity would be utilized.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The emotional argument in this case would be that society "should" let a man who raped and killed a 6 month old live, because of an obligation to treat him humanely. He did not act humanely when he raped and killed a baby, thus deserves no humane treatment. The logical response would be to kill him. Logic implies that equity would be utilized.
    No it isn't. The logical argument is that to get rid of the death penalty saves money, and again there is the potential of executing innocent people. Why spend this money on executions when it could be spent in much more productive manner?

    Death Penalty*:*Cost

    Since 1977, California has had 13 executions at a cost placed by
    federal Ninth Circuit Judge Arthur Alarcon and Loyola Law School
    Professor Paula Mitchell at $4 billion. That amounts to about
    $300 million dollars per execution, or 20 times what seemed to
    Magagnini and others a reasonable estimate in 1988. A report by
    Natasha Minsker at ACLU of Northern California nicely sums up the
    question of costs, "And today, with California's urgent budget crisis in law
    enforcement and victims' services as well as other vital areas,
    we simply can't afford this kind of extravagance!"

    Getting more cops and homicide investigators on the beat, solving
    more "cold case" homicides and improving on the clearance rates
    for murder now at only around 50% in many of our counties,
    keeping services for victims adequately funded, and "connecting
    the dots" to prevent some of these homicides and other violent
    crimes -- these are agendas the public can understand. And SB 490
    gives them the opportunity to rethink priorities in a situation
    the voters didn't have before them in 1972, 1978, or 1986.

    Finally, there's a third trend that's been quietly percolating
    over these eventful decades: a recognition that LWOP actually
    means what it says in California! Over 3700 California prisoners
    have received this sentence, with only a handful released because
    of the one "escape clause" we should want to keep: later it had
    been discovered that they were actually innocent of the offenses
    for which they had been convicted. LWOP, like the death penalty,
    spells permanent incarceration and death in prison -- but allows
    room for correcting the rare but not unknown miscarriage of
    justice.


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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No it isn't. The logical argument is that to get rid of the death penalty saves money, and again there is the potential of executing innocent people. Why spend this money on executions when it could be spent in much more productive manner?

    Death Penalty*:*Cost
    Logic has nothing to do with money. Logic is about making judgements based on facts and circumstances.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Logic has nothing to do with money. Logic is about making judgements based on facts and circumstances.
    Yes, and the amount of money spent is a fact and a circumstance.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, and the amount of money spent is a fact and a circumstance.
    But that is not what logic is about. Logic pertains to judging the action committed, and the logical response to that action, not based on money, but on the appropriateness and the balancing of the action itself.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Sorry, I don't suffer fools well.
    Fools, reason, intellect. A frightful nuisance they are. lulz

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Fools, reason, intellect. A frightful nuisance they are. lulz
    Look, go bother someone else with your ridiculousness. I'm trying to discuss the topic like an adult.

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