View Poll Results: Do you support the death penalty?

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Good morning Grip, I enjoyed sharing with you on this topic. It made me use a couple of extra neurons. Have a good one.
    Yes, healthy with mutual respect for each others opinion and no demeaning personal insinuations. Good debate.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Sorry bub... wrong. You don't see me shouting or getting angry with people here. You see me talking about consequences. It is you insulting others with cries of vengeance and eco shouting blood lust at others that are emotional. When my kid does something wrong they get a consequence. The DP is just a natural extension of the consequence system. Sorry that your emotions are blinding you from this simplicity... *shrugs*
    Sorry....call it whatever you want, but the bottom line, what you are advocating is classic vengence. Thats just the reality.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And locking someone permanently in a cage is humane?
    As humane as possible, obviously. Duh.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Justice is not served by killing helpless harmless captives.

    silly nonsense.


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Justice is served when society rises above and validates its existence.
    If all you're going to do is quote bumper stickers, please consider an exit plan.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Lock him up, so that he cannot hurt anyone else. And - do not offer him the easy way out. He did what he did - let him live with it, however cruel that may be. We are not like him. We do not kill people who are not attacking us. Let him know it.
    Let him know it? He doesn't give a ****. Society owes him that same consideration.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Killing is killing. The end result is the same no matter who is doing the killing.
    Bull excrement. It's not the same. And it doesn't mean a single turd to me whether or not people comprehend that.




    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, evil spreads from rotten vengeful brains, and thankfully it's not up to someone like you to decide what is and is not a priority.
    Too bad it's not. Society would be much safer if I was in charge. Either way, it begins with a senseless crime, not vengeance..
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....call it whatever you want, but the bottom line, what you are advocating is classic vengence. Thats just the reality.
    No, it serves as a just punishment and deterrent. And in your reasoning, why is the DP vengeance but a lifetime in jail not vengeance? The DP is a known consequence for certain crimes and serves as a punishment, deterrent and removal of someone from this life who is deemed unfit to live here due to their actions for which a life of confinement is not enough. Sometimes it may be in the best interest for the safety of others in the case of serial killers that would kill again if they ever escaped or came into contact with another person (even in prison).
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    If all you're going to do is quote bumper stickers, please consider an exit plan.
    I'm flattered that you think my off-hand remarks are bumper-sticker material. I am pretty good with words, aren't I?


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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    WRONG. There are other reasons to have the death penalty. Just because you can't fathom one does not mean it is about revenge.
    You say there are other reasons yet you fail to provide one.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Inconsistent. You said the DP is about revenge. How does one commit revenge upon thy self?
    They don't. But if they wish to take themselves out of this world then I have no problem with that.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Poiuy View Post
    For the botched execution they way to fix this is by executing them differently such as by beheading or hanging.
    Beheading: A 15th century punishment for the 15th century conservative mind.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    What makes us better than them? We didn't kill without just cause. That is the difference.
    If the sentenced finds their action of killing another just and you find your killing of them just then there is really no difference between the two of you. The action you both committed was the same and both of you find your reasons for doing it just.

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