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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Ah yes, you'd prayed that this most fundamental lynchpin would remain concealed, had you not?

    Sorry, Eco. All the sarcasm you can muster won't suffice to compensate for the core weakness in your approach. Morality does not exist in nature. You'd like to believe that any logic here is more than merely justification of one's personal perspective. This obviously cannot be, unless you, alone in all of history, can explain how morality is objective.

    Were morality logical, there could be no difference of opinion. Every time and culture would have embraced identical ideals.
    Try this morality on for size:

    It is innate within humans to want to live (extremely rare exceptions a given). This innate desire to live is self evident. The self evidence of this desire can only be logically expressed in a right to life. In this way, a right to life is a natural right.

    Is it logical to presume that ones innate desire is also innate in others? Yes. Is it possible to confirm this? Yes. Is it reasonable to construe this innate desire as a natural right? Yes. Is this natural right logical and reasonable? Yes.

    While all rights can (even justly) be taken away or refused, they do represent morality and, in this particular case, I've clearly explained how the morality is both logical and reasonable.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Try this morality on for size:

    It is innate within humans to want to live (extremely rare exceptions a given). This innate desire to live is self evident. The self evidence of this desire can only be logically expressed in a right to life. In this way, a right to life is a natural right.

    Is it logical to presume that ones innate desire is also innate in others? Yes. Is it possible to confirm this? Yes. Is it reasonable to construe this innate desire as a natural right? Yes. Is this natural right logical and reasonable? Yes.

    While all rights can (even justly) be taken away or refused, they do represent morality and, in this particular case, I've clearly explained how the morality is both logical and reasonable.
    Arm chair psychobabble...
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Try this morality on for size:

    It is innate within humans to want to live (extremely rare exceptions a given). This innate desire to live is self evident. The self evidence of this desire can only be logically expressed in a right to life. In this way, a right to life is a natural right.

    Is it logical to presume that ones innate desire is also innate in others? Yes. Is it possible to confirm this? Yes. Is it reasonable to construe this innate desire as a natural right? Yes. Is this natural right logical and reasonable? Yes.

    While all rights can (even justly) be taken away or refused, they do represent morality and, in this particular case, I've clearly explained how the morality is both logical and reasonable.
    The desire to live isn't the issue. The issue remains whether or not, having consciously dismissed this desire to live, your own desire may be similarly dismissed.

    The 'right' to life is a function of morality, being something other than desire alone. Were it merely a question of desire, the same 'right' you mistake as being a logical premise, would be void the instant the desire changed.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Arm chair psychobabble...
    And easily undermined. Eco won't be achieving what has never been a possibility in all of human history.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Arm chair psychobabble...

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    And easily undermined. Eco won't be achieving what has never been a possibility in all of human history.
    We hold these truths to be self-evident...

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    The desire to live isn't the issue. The issue remains whether or not, having consciously dismissed this desire to live, your own desire may be similarly dismissed.
    Bullcrap. Two wrongs don't make a right. Didn't you learn that when you were a kid?

    The 'right' to life is a function of morality, being something other than desire alone. Were it merely a question of desire, the same 'right' you mistake as being a logical premise, would be void the instant the desire changed.
    The desire being universal (rare exceptions given) is what implores us to describe it as a right. Because the desire is innate and universal, it is a natural right.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    And easily undermined. Eco won't be achieving what has never been a possibility in all of human history.
    Word to the Strip G...
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Bullcrap. Two wrongs don't make a right. Didn't you learn that when you were a kid?
    It can if the correct outcome occurs... kinda common sense.
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