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Thread: Death Penalty, for or against

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Said 'person' just raped and murdered a teen girl.
    Lock him up, so that he cannot hurt anyone else. And - do not offer him the easy way out. He did what he did - let him live with it, however cruel that may be. We are not like him. We do not kill people who are not attacking us. Let him know it.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, danarhea.

    Was it botched, or is that a usual procedure in Oklahoma to have them awake and aware? I'm surprised no one intervened.

    Off topic, what how was the Willis trip? Fun?
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That may be so but caged people do kill even after being caged.
    The rarity of a prisoner in max security and solitary managing to kill someone is sufficient that we, as a society, have taken all reasonable action. Other prisoners are there of their own actions and guards are volunteers. That extremely minor exposure of society to the convict is far more ethically acceptable than slaughtering helpless people.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    well gosh-- i wonder how much pain his victim was as she was buried alive.
    Probably a lot, but not a reason for the government to be like the murderer.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Enlightened individuals understand vengeance (based on emotion) has no place in a justice system. There is no point to killing a caged person.
    Yet your own emotionality here is evident. Namely, your anger. This would not seem in keeping with any pretence of 'enlightenment'. Nor is your callous disregard for those who died horrendous deaths at the hands of your beloved pets.

    And the point would be justice. Call it vengeance if you will. That's fine with me. So it's vengeance. And? There's no prevailing in a moral debate, Eco. I trust you know that.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Justice is not served by killing helpless harmless captives. Such a sense of justice is depraved. Justice is served when society rises above and validates its existence.
    Would you kill in defense of yourself, or that of someone you love?
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Lock him up, so that he cannot hurt anyone else. And - do not offer him the easy way out. He did what he did - let him live with it, however cruel that may be. We are not like him. We do not kill people who are not attacking us. Let him know it.
    Do you think he gives a ****?

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Yet your own emotionality here is evident. Namely, your anger. This would not seem in keeping with any pretence of 'enlightenment'. Nor is your callous disregard for those who died horrendous deaths at the hands of your beloved pets.

    And the point would be justice. Call it vengeance if you will. That's fine with me. So it's vengeance. And? There's no prevailing in a moral debate, Eco. I trust you know that.
    There is no emotion in my position. I've no desire for vengeance, no blood lust, no feelings of inadequacy to assuage.

    Killing a helpless harmless captive is pointless. Just simple logic and reason.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Enlightened individuals understand vengeance (based on emotion) has no place in a justice system. There is no point to killing a caged person.
    Oh wow- going to use the enlightened card here?
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Would you kill in defense of yourself, or that of someone you love?
    Killing is only justified in defense. I have no problem with using lethal force in defense (of anyone).

    But if you tied someone up, threw them in a cage and disposed of the key, I would not be inclined to kill purely for emotion.

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