View Poll Results: Do you support the death penalty?

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Thread: Death Penalty, for or against

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So what makes us better than them? They kill someone, causing a family unimaginable grief, so we turn around, as civilized people, and do it to another family? It's just kind of sick.
    What makes us better than them? We didn't kill without just cause. That is the difference.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Don't try to lay the guilt trip on me regarding killing terrorists. I have no pity for them either. If caging were murder in your book, you would not be opposed to killing them.
    You misunderstand.

    A caged person is no threat to society. There is no need to "put them down". It's just killing for vengeance, purely emotional and pointless.

    Terrorists love killing helpless captives. I'm sure they'd let you lop a few heads off to satiate your blood lust.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Not all murderers are psychopaths. Your argument is BS.
    Most are. those are usually the ones on death penalty.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You misunderstand.

    A caged person is no threat to society. There is no need to "put them down". It's just killing for vengeance, purely emotional and pointless.

    Terrorists love killing helpless captives. I'm sure they'd let you lop a few heads off to satiate your blood lust.
    This is spot on. Just because someone has a low value for human life, doesn't that mean we should also. I don't think retribution equates to justice, punishment is for the sake of society and the offender.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You misunderstand.

    A caged person is no threat to society. There is no need to "put them down". It's just killing for vengeance, purely emotional and pointless.

    Terrorists love killing helpless captives. I'm sure they'd let you lop a few heads off to satiate your blood lust.
    You can just cool it with the hyperbole. It's not going to affect my position. It isn't killing for vengeance. It is administering justice for those who were wronged.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    What makes us better than them? We didn't kill without just cause. That is the difference.
    Death is too heavy a weight for the scale of justice, it breaks it.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    You can just cool it with the hyperbole. It's not going to affect my position. It isn't killing for vengeance. It is administering justice for those who were wronged.
    One can never satisfy an individual's desire for justice. The justice system is concerned with justice for society, which is not served with pointless killing.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    I'm not anti-death penalty per se. When you find a murderer with bodies buried in the basement, the victim's organs in the fridge/freezer, and the perp's DNA all over the murder weapons and the victim's bodies, then there is absolutely no doubt of guilt and I'm for swift execution, not 20 years at club fed while the appeals run out.

    However, I'm against the DP being used as a club by promising to take death off the table if people confess, etc. That's almost always what it's used for, and that should be illegal. Also, there are too many people being sentenced to death on circumstantial evidence, people who have later been found to be innocent (thank god for DNA!). That tells me it's being used inappropriately, being used too often, and being used when guilt has not been established beyond all doubt by hard, physical evidence.

    As to how the DP should be carried out, I just wanna *facepalm* at the stupidity of the system. My vet can put my dying pet to sleep in ten painless seconds. An overdose of morphine works quickly, painlessly and efficiently. In this day and age, there is no conceivable excuse why a prisoner should writhe, scream, gasp, convulse when they could have been put down in minutes by any one of a dozen drugs, most of which are available on the damned street.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    What else should we refrain from in our lack of omniscience?
    What else compares with destroying a whole universe that is another person?

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Death is too heavy a weight for the scale of justice, it breaks it.
    No. It is the perfect balance for the crime committed.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
    -C G Jung

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