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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I favor the death penalty in cases of murder, which can be proven beyond any doubt whatsoever, and in which there is no evidence of a strong emotional basis (ie crimes of passion). Imo, if you can kill in cold blood, without having any reason to do so, besides just your desire to kill and maim, then you forfeit your humanity card when you commit the act.
    What about murderers who can be reformed? Some murderers are not calculating psychopaths but rather people who may have taken things a bit too far in the heat of the moment or felt they needed to protect their family, etc. Due to how self-defense laws work here, you can very easily end up with a murder charge just because you were trying to defend yourself but went too far.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, it doesn't promote murder. The murder is the unjustified taking of a life for no reason other than the desire to do so. The death penalty is a just penalty for someone who committed murder.
    Of course it does. People figure... if the government can kill a helpless harmless person who is definitely guilty of bad things, then so can I.

    Do you not understand what "rationalization" means?

    How do you not understand that it sets a bad example? It's clearly saying "doing this is ok".

    Abandon your emotion and you will abandon the bloodthirsty vengeance of the death penalty.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The death penalty is in the news again in America because states are turning to new, untested drug concoctions to use for lethal injection, and sometimes the drugs being used in executions cause complications and prolonged dying. There was a case a few months ago out of Ohio, but the story coming out of Oklahoma seems the most controversial yet. It actually delayed another man's execution.

    A link to the story is below...



    So do you favor the death penalty?

    Do you think the death penalty will last in America considering the declining availability of traditional lethal injection drugs?



    Oklahoma’s horrible ‘botched execution’ shows again why the death penalty should be abolished
    I am all for the death penalty. I do not care how it is carried out, but I would prefer the Guillotine. No worries, just swish. I think we worry way too much how someone who killed another person or many people, who may have made them suffer tremendously whether the means of execution will case the perp to suffer some.

    I also am not worried if the death penalty is a deterrent or not. what the death penalty does is guarantee that whoever receives it will not commit another murder or a bunch of murders.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    What about murderers who can be reformed? Some murderers are not calculating psychopaths but rather people who may have taken things a bit too far in the heat of the moment or felt they needed to protect their family, etc. Due to how self-defense laws work here, you can very easily end up with a murder charge just because you were trying to defend yourself but went too far.
    What you refer to would be included in the crimes of passion category, which I stated I would not support the death penalty for.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Of course it does. People figure... if the government can kill a helpless harmless person who is definitely guilty of bad things, then so can I.

    Do you not understand what "rationalization" means?

    How do you not understand that it sets a bad example?
    Yes, I do understand what rationalization means, and it's is perfectly rational to take the life of a cold-blooded killer.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes, I do understand what rationalization means, and it's is perfectly rational to take the life of a cold-blooded killer.
    It's only rational to take life in defense. Bloodthirst and vengeance are the work of emotion, not logic and reason.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    What you refer to would be included in the crimes of passion category, which I stated I would not support the death penalty for.
    We should have more pity for those without empathy than we do for those who act in emotion.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    I am 100% against the death penalty. It is fallible, inefficient, inhumane, and increases state power. Government can hardly be trusted with healthcare, yet most conservatives think it's a good idea to entrust them with the power to take someone's life?

    Pretty good article on the subject: Government Can

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    I believe the DP (done correctly) is more humane than locking someone in a cell for life.

    But. it's not about what happens to you in life that counts. There's a special place in Hell for some of these people.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Bloodthirst and vengeance are the work of emotion, not logic and reason.
    Personally, I think maintaining the life, at perpetual taxpayer expense, of a human being who has proven himself to be little more than a rabid animal is both illogical and unreasonable.
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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