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Thread: Death Penalty, for or against

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I fail to find sympathy with cold blooded murders.
    Me too, and yet I am opposed to the death penalty.

    I see no reason to treat cold blooded murders with kid's glove and give them all the niceties of the world.
    Me too, and yet I am opposed to the death penalty.

    If I had my way, each individual murderer would be killed in the exact fashion they killed whomever they killed.
    So what does that make YOU? How about a cold-blooded killer? What you want to do is no different than the cold-blooded killer. Think about it.

    Actually if one stops and thinks about it, the guillotine is swift, quick and relative painless.
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    say what you will, but in my opinion there is something wrong in a society that give murderers more sympathy than the victims and the people they killed. you can have all the sympathy you want for murderers and killers, myself, my sympathy lies with those whom they killed, wounded and made to suffer.
    To me, a society that kills it's own is savage. And it's not about being sympathetic at all. It's all about not being a society that itself commits cold-blooded murder.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Taking life is acceptable and necessary in certain circumstances though. Imprisoning others against their will is not a moral act under normal circumstances either, but it can certainly be justified as a punishment for violent and damaging behavior.
    Only if it's in self defense is it acceptable to me, and it's never acceptable for the government to kill citizens because too many mistakes are made.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    If killing is wrong, then killing to prove that killing is wrong is still wrong. And killing IS wrong, even when you feel like it's justified retribution.


    Killing isn't always wrong. It's always regrettable, but sometimes necessary.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Clayon Lockett deserved to suffer. He brutally raped a young woman. Then burried her alive. Qni
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Actually, it is the other way around. The proponents of death penalty are driven by their emotions, "animal spirits".

    Yes, it is natural to seek vengeance.
    I mean, if were a father of one of the kids gunned down by Mr. Breivik on July 22, 2011 - well, the first thing I would do on the day he is released from prison (those super-"humane" Scandinavian laws...) is to sink as many rounds into his chest as I could, before cops bring me down.

    But.

    This is not how you build or sustain civilization. This is how you destroy it.

    Do I know what "justice" is? How? Oh, sure, it says so-and-so in a sacred book - the Torah, if I am lucky; the Complete Works of Parteigenosse Lenin/Hitler/Mao - if I was born on the wrong side of the fence....

    Screw that. I do not know what's "justice". Have I ever been to another person's brain? Felt what he or she feels? Knew what she or he knows? Suffered from exactly the same kind of madness?

    Justice is impossible. Period. Unless you are the all-knowing God. Are you?
    Awesome post, and I couldn't agree more with everything you posted here.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Me too, and yet I am opposed to the death penalty.



    Me too, and yet I am opposed to the death penalty.



    So what does that make YOU? How about a cold-blooded killer? What you want to do is no different than the cold-blooded killer. Think about it.



    King Henry VIII, is that you?



    To me, a society that kills it's own is savage. And it's not about being sympathetic at all. It's all about not being a society that itself commits cold-blooded murder.
    Perhaps a cold blooded killer, but the victim in this case, the one who murdered someone else or more would have been found guilty of cold blooded murder by a jury of his peers and sentenced by a judge. More important, the killing of this person would be legal with all proper procedures followed. Now compare that to what this murderer had did, would have killed/murdered someone or more just because he felt like it, no jury, no judge, just a rampage. There is no comparison or anything to think about. But if I were thinking about something, it would be the ones murdered by this guy, gal or whomever. Killed in cold blood as you put it. his victims did nothing to deserve killing, they just happened to be there. they were innocent and now they are innocently dead. The one put to death by judge, jury and executioner deserved it, he committed an act that warranted the death penalty, he was not innocent like the victims he had just killed. A very huge difference.

    Henry the VIII, I do not think I was any king in my many past lives.

    It is not cold blooded murder when the death penalty is enforced. It is a results of legally followed procedures for a crime deemed worthy of it. There is nothing cold blooded in executing a murderer, it is well thought out and well deserved. Especially today.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Perhaps a cold blooded killer, but the victim in this case, the one who murdered someone else or more would have been found guilty of cold blooded murder by a jury of his peers and sentenced by a judge. More important, the killing of this person would be legal with all proper procedures followed. Now compare that to what this murderer had did, would have killed/murdered someone or more just because he felt like it, no jury, no judge, just a rampage. There is no comparison or anything to think about. But if I were thinking about something, it would be the ones murdered by this guy, gal or whomever. Killed in cold blood as you put it. his victims did nothing to deserve killing, they just happened to be there. they were innocent and now they are innocently dead. The one put to death by judge, jury and executioner deserved it, he committed an act that warranted the death penalty, he was not innocent like the victims he had just killed. A very huge difference.

    Henry the VIII, I do not think I was any king in my many past lives.

    It is not cold blooded murder when the death penalty is enforced. It is a results of legally followed procedures for a crime deemed worthy of it. There is nothing cold blooded in executing a murderer, it is well thought out and well deserved. Especially today.
    None of that matters when we are dealing with human beings. Prosecutors are human beings and so is everyone else who handles the evidence all the way down the line. There have been many instances of error, contamination of evidence and also willful prosecutorial misconduct, among other problems.

    Not to mention, why would ANYONE want their government to have the power to take a citizen's life when we can lock them up?

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The death penalty is in the news again in America because states are turning to new, untested drug concoctions to use for lethal injection, and sometimes the drugs being used in executions cause complications and prolonged dying. There was a case a few months ago out of Ohio, but the story coming out of Oklahoma seems the most controversial yet. It actually delayed another man's execution.

    A link to the story is below...



    So do you favor the death penalty?

    Do you think the death penalty will last in America considering the declining availability of traditional lethal injection drugs?



    Oklahoma’s horrible ‘botched execution’ shows again why the death penalty should be abolished
    I don't understand. We pay so much for such expensive, stupid, not always great methods. Bullets are cheap, and headshots are instantaneous.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Keep them locked up. Forever. Unless and until some evidence pops up that they were wrongfully accused.

    Look, my absolute opposition to death penalty is not any kind of kindness overflow, or any residual Catholic sentiment. Hell, if had to choose between DP and life in prison, shoot me right now.

    This is not about them, really. This is about us.

    Being a gentlewoman from Ohio, you may not quite understand it (emotionally), but I was born and raised in places much less forgiving. If I would exact my - perfectly justified, by the standards of the last two thousands years - revenge on everyone who certainly deserves it ....well--- Volga, Don, Dnieper and a number of smaller rivers in the Eastern Europe would turn red for a few weeks....

    No.

    This is the only possible answer: NO.

    Don't get me wrong: I am a lifetime member of the NRA, all-out American patriot, tea-party-ing right-wing libertarian, etc, etc .

    But on this one, there can be no compromise: Countries worth defending do not execute helpless prisoners. I believe in America that is worth defending.
    I agree 100 percent with you that they should be locked up - forever - if that was their sentence. My point was that the law was not being followed, then, if a group can decide that thousands of criminals should be released because the cost of lawful incarceration is so great that it harms the State budget. When money becomes more important than the law, what a lucky day for them, right? :

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes, well, I don't forfeit my humanity card. I believe killing a helpless harmless captive is inhuman. It sets a bad example and thereby promotes murder through the justification of rationalization.
    Really, well you are entitled to your opinion but I have a question for you. Do you know why Clayton Lockett was put to death? I'll tell you why. Clayton Lockett, the helpless harmless captive, along with two other animals gang raped, shot, and buried alive 18 year old Stephanie Neiman. In my opinion Clayton Lockett should have been gang raped then hung by the neck till he was dead. I feel that his suffering was a good thing.
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