View Poll Results: Does it actually matter?

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  • No....he deserved to die a harrible death.

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  • Yes....Everyone should die with dignity.

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  • I simply do not care what happened to this bastard.

    8 19.05%
  • He died a better death than his victim.

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Thread: was this actually "Botched"?

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Thus.....a bullet to the brain.

    Immediate (No suffering)
    Inexpensive (less than $100 including paying the squad)
    Humane (comparatively)
    Guaranteed to accomplish the goal



    Plus, if retribution is required...we can put the Victims family on the squad.
    I've seen pics of a guy who survived a shotgun blast in the maw. It ain't pretty. Botches will happen with every method.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    I've seen pics of a guy who survived a shotgun blast in the maw. It ain't pretty. Botches will happen with every method.
    No firing squad fails. Seven good marksmen, four bullets, three blanks, no one knows if their gun is live, all firing at the head.

    Game over.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    "McALESTER, Okla. A botched execution that used a new drug combination left an Oklahoma inmate writhing and clenching his teeth on the gurney Tuesday, leading prison officials to halt the proceedings before the inmate's eventual death from a heart attack.
    Clayton Lockett, 38, was declared unconscious 10 minutes after the first of the state's new three-drug lethal injection combination was administered. Three minutes later, though, he began breathing heavily, writhing, clenching his teeth and straining to lift his head off the pillow.



    The blinds were eventually lowered to prevent those in the viewing gallery from watching what was happening in the death chamber, and the state's top prison official eventually called a halt to the proceedings. Lockett died of a heart attack a short time later, the Department of Corrections said.
    "It was a horrible thing to witness. This was totally botched," said Lockett's attorney, David Autry."
    Okla. inmate dies of heart attack after botched execution | Fox News


    Does it rally matter "HOW" we kill the people we decide need to die?



    I always wondered why they did away with crucifixion myself.
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I always wondered why they did away with crucifixion myself.
    Too expensive
    $220 in materials
    Food and Beverage service for the 3 days of people watching.
    Cleaning service in bio suits.


    It adds up.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Too expensive
    $220 in materials
    Food and Beverage service for the 3 days of people watching.
    Cleaning service in bio suits.


    It adds up.


    Good point.

    But then what about the English method of making it a festival? It is so much easier when you simply let them swing and they have to hire people to pull on their legs so they die fairly quickly.

    That should save the state a ****load and you could charge the spectators a user fee.
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    No firing squad fails. Seven good marksmen, four bullets, three blanks, no one knows if their gun is live, all firing at the head.

    Game over.
    I never got this absurdity of not knowing who made the kill. We hire soldiers, put them on the battlefield and they don't get blanks. They are paid to kill. Hell, pay me, I'll pull the trigger on any death row case in the nation, no blanks required.
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I never got this absurdity of not knowing who made the kill. We hire soldiers, put them on the battlefield and they don't get blanks. They are paid to kill. Hell, pay me, I'll pull the trigger on any death row case in the nation, no blanks required.
    These are not soldiers....they are employees and not trained to kill.

    In this way, they do not know to feel guilt.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    No firing squad fails. Seven good marksmen, four bullets, three blanks, no one knows if their gun is live, all firing at the head.

    Game over.
    You can't seriously be claiming that an execution by firing squad hasn't been horribly botched?

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    You can't seriously be claiming that an execution by firing squad hasn't been horribly botched?
    I don't see how a firing squad as described could fail to cause immediate and complete death with virtually no suffering besides the anticipation.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    These are not soldiers....they are employees and not trained to kill.

    In this way, they do not know to feel guilt.
    Then hire some soldiers. Problem solved.
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