View Poll Results: Does it actually matter?

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  • No....he deserved to die a harrible death.

    12 28.57%
  • Yes....Everyone should die with dignity.

    14 33.33%
  • I simply do not care what happened to this bastard.

    8 19.05%
  • He died a better death than his victim.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    [/I]Does it rally matter "HOW" we kill the people we decide need to die?
    Not even remotely. It may be that some ****bags deserve a protracted demise.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It's nasty what happened to him. But what's nastier is what he and his 3 filthy friends did to that poor teenage girl.
    I tend to believe in eye for an eye, though excessive brutality does take one to the same level as the scum.

    The execution wasn't planned to turn out that way, but I can't say I carry any sympathy for him that it did.
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ginwood View Post
    why not just strap them into a heavy chair, with base of skull clamped back against the muzzle of a very short barreled 410 shotgun? pLastic bag overhead to catch the mess. 3 volunteers, 3 lit up buttons, random computer thing so nobody can know which one sent the signal, instant, guaranteed painless death. no need to pay some dr $5000 for the deed, either.
    I'd call that economically viable.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It was such a horrible crime. They buried her alive.

    I feel so bad for her family. I just can't imagine the nightmares they've had for decades. <sigh>
    I feel the same way for her family.

    That guy definitely deserved the death penalty for such horrible crimes. And as far as the mistakes made in the way they put him to death, it is not like that is the norm, it was most likely a fluke accident.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    we KNOW that innocent men have been sent to death row. If we've killed an innocent man, at least know that we did so painlessly, instantly. That waiting on the poison is bs.

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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Why not just use general anesthesia? Its good enough for surgery and used all the friggin time? and then any number of death sentences will be painless.

    However, this is a good read. Its actually cheaper just to someone in prison for life (which is what I personally support)

    To execute or not: A question of cost? - US news - Crime & courts | NBC News
    No, it's not. Putting someone to death is cheap. It's the absurd legal wrangling that we allow people to go through, paid for by the taxpayer, that's expensive. Once someone is convicted by a jury of their peers, once they go through their single mandatory appeal, we should restrict all other appeals to new evidence that the convicted is factually innocent of the crime. They shouldn't be able to appeal because they don't like the sentence and don't want to die. That makes the system much, much less expensive.
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I think prisoners who receive the death penalty do not necessarily have to die completely painlessly, but we should not make their deaths needlessly barbaric either. Whatever Oklahoma is using isn't working obviously, and there are likely better ways to do it.

    General anesthesia would be a good start, and then you can use any number or ways without causing them pain. Or just strap them down and hook them up to a ventilator feeding them an inert gas like nitrogen or helium. There won't be any CO2 buildup in the blood, so they won't get the suffocating feeling, they'll just pass out and die shortly afterward from lack of oxygen.
    I'm entirely fine with knocking them out, then putting a bullet in their head. It's fast, it's cheap and it allows us to harvest their organs. Why do people purposely make this more difficult than it needs to be?
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    "McALESTER, Okla. – A botched execution that used a new drug combination left an Oklahoma inmate writhing and clenching his teeth on the gurney Tuesday, leading prison officials to halt the proceedings before the inmate's eventual death from a heart attack.
    Clayton Lockett, 38, was declared unconscious 10 minutes after the first of the state's new three-drug lethal injection combination was administered. Three minutes later, though, he began breathing heavily, writhing, clenching his teeth and straining to lift his head off the pillow.



    The blinds were eventually lowered to prevent those in the viewing gallery from watching what was happening in the death chamber, and the state's top prison official eventually called a halt to the proceedings. Lockett died of a heart attack a short time later, the Department of Corrections said.
    "It was a horrible thing to witness. This was totally botched," said Lockett's attorney, David Autry."
    Okla. inmate dies of heart attack after botched execution | Fox News


    Does it rally matter "HOW" we kill the people we decide need to die?
    No it was not botched. He was executed.A botched execution would be one that did not succeed in execution. This whining over him feeling some pain is idiotic and nothing more than piece of **** scumbag sympathizer propaganda. Considering what he did to his victim his death was easy.
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post


    [/I]Does it rally matter "HOW" we kill the people we decide need to die?
    Imo, as long as it's fast, efficient, and relatively painless, I don't care how we kill them. A bullet to the head would be fine with me.
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    Re: was this actually "Botched"?

    He should not have been executed to begin with...

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