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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There is a huge difference between any individual selecting A over B (or B over A) and in having the gov't (or any other outside force) eliminate either A or B as a possible choice.
    I'm not seeing where the government has eliminated either A or B as a possible choice in the name of political correctness. Do you have any examples?

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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I'm not seeing where the government has eliminated either A or B as a possible choice in the name of political correctness. Do you have any examples?
    Not allowing alcohol sales on Sunday, not allowing carrying a legally purchased handgun without first paying for the privilege and a tax/fine for not buying "gov't approved" medical care insurance come to mind. Many things are mandated for no other reason than "it should be so" based on the opinions of the elite (political correctness).
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    No. The only time I have boycotted a company is because of their violation of human rights; their bad practices that were seriously harming people. And the boycott was strictly refusal to buy their products UNTIL they changed those bad practices. And when they changed their policies, we went right back to buying those products.

    Poltiical correctness does not punish people for what they DO. It punishes people for what they THINK, what they SAY, what they BELIEVE, and who and what they are.

    I can see the difference between those two things. Can you?
    If it can be said that people are what they eat...then why can't it be said that people are what they think and believe, as well? If someone has racist thoughts and speech then chances are pretty high that person is probably a racist.

    Boycotting and peaceful protests are fundamental to a free capitalist society which is why your hatred for the first amendment is rather odd in your proclamations to love freedom so much. Personally, I would prefer that society make the moral changes and for government to simply to protect that right. Which is pretty much how it is now, isn't it?
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not allowing alcohol sales on Sunday, not allowing carrying a legally purchased handgun without first paying for the privilege and a tax/fine for not buying "gov't approved" medical care insurance come to mind. Many things are mandated for no other reason than "it should be so" based on the opinions of the elite (political correctness).
    Local governments are closer to the people....so perhaps it's the people who don't want alcohol sales on Sundays. Don't you think people should have a right to decide what businesses are allowed in their local community?

    Medical insurance was mandated because the private sector made insurance a necessity to getting health care.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Just an observation from the Sterling fallout in the NBA, or CEO's resigning because they supported a political cause that was unpopular with the masses or the usual media fauxrage (Huffington Post headlines cough cough) that every time some politician (usually from the GOP) makes some sort of statement about gays or minorities or anything that the mainstream thinks is unacceptable and must be spread out across the internet so that outrage can pile on outrage. Is it getting out of hand or should it continue?

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    It is offensive to use the word "too"....we degrade people by saying they are "too" fat, or "too" thin and causes them social insecurities, and relegates them to second tier humanity.

    So, it is morally wrong to suggest any attempt to save mankind by finding non-offensive ways to communicate is in any way beyond the necessary.

    So the question itself is an abuse, therefore there cannot be "too much" political correctness.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Local governments are closer to the people....so perhaps it's the people who don't want alcohol sales on Sundays. Don't you think people should have a right to decide what businesses are allowed in their local community?

    Medical insurance was mandated because the private sector made insurance a necessity to getting health care.
    Nonsense. I see that you like political correctness being enforced since freedom can be "abused" by making bad choices.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If it can be said that people are what they eat...then why can't it be said that people are what they think and believe, as well? If someone has racist thoughts and speech then chances are pretty high that person is probably a racist.

    Boycotting and peaceful protests are fundamental to a free capitalist society which is why your hatred for the first amendment is rather odd in your proclamations to love freedom so much. Personally, I would prefer that society make the moral changes and for government to simply to protect that right. Which is pretty much how it is now, isn't it?
    Government is not protecting my right to be who and what I am. Government is not protecting my unalienable right to think my own thoughts, believe my own beliefs, say my own words from people like you who would presume to tell me who and what I must be or else be disciplined in cruel and harmful ways. Who am I, who are you, who is anybody to tell another person that he or she cannot be Christian or Atheist? Can or cannot be liberal or conservative? Can be a wholly bonkers irrational busy body do gooder or a racist?

    We certainly should be willing to step up and protect and defend, however we have to, everybody's unalienable rights. And God help us if there are many people who presume the right to dictate morality to everybody else and thereby in every way violate their unalienable rights.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    We will be a totalitarian state.
    If that's the way you feel about it, we have always been a totalitarian state.

    Again, political correctness only becomes political correctness if it is social control you do not like. We have always used it, and we will continue to use it. The only true difference, over time, is what values, ideas, and politics the public is willing to tolerate. That is all. What is happening now is that the previously dominating segment of society is no longer going to be the most numerous, nor is it nearly as convincing in its previously-proclaimed superiority.

    Those that identify with the previous dominating segment of society are only getting a minuscule portion of what other groups in society have had to deal with. It's horrifying to them only because they haven't much at all experience with more extreme versions of control and persecution.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If that's the way you feel about it, we have always been a totalitarian state.

    Again, political correctness only becomes political correctness if it is social control you do not like. We have always used it, and we will continue to use it. The only true difference, over time, is what values, ideas, and politics the public is willing to tolerate. That is all. What is happening now is that the previously dominating segment of society is no longer going to be the most numerous, nor is it nearly as convincing in its previously-proclaimed superiority.

    Those that identify with the previous dominating segment of society are only getting a minuscule portion of what other groups in society have had to deal with. It's horrifying to them only because they haven't much at all experience with more extreme versions of control and persecution.
    It isn't a matter of one side 'having more' than another side. It is a matter of self governance, the right to be who and what we are regardless of what anybody else thinks UNLESS we are violating the rights of somebody else. THAT is what the Founders intended this country to be--a country in which nobody was limited by anything other than their own ability to be as good or successful as they can and want to be with whatever hand they were dealt. And we saw millions rise from pretty much nothing and do amazing things under such a concept of liberty.

    PC does not allow people to be who and what they are. PC demands that people be what the PC people say they MUST be if they do not wish to have an angry mob descend upon them and wreck havoc on them.

    And that I see as evil.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    THAT is what the Founders intended this country to be--a country in which nobody was limited by anything other than their own ability to be as good or successful as they can and want to be with whatever hand they were dealt. And we saw millions rise from pretty much nothing and do amazing things under such a concept of liberty.
    The founders, nor the citizens of the time ever practiced the sort of freedom you seek. They berated each other for having political and social orientations all the time and exercised pressure to ensure that it stayed that way. Social and thought control was practically the hallmark for our separation from Britain.

    Again, you're in a fantasy world that never existed.
    Last edited by Fiddytree; 05-05-14 at 07:24 PM.
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