View Poll Results: Is there too much political correctness now?

Voters
89. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes, its gotten out of hand

    70 78.65%
  • No, needs more bacon

    19 21.35%
Page 20 of 25 FirstFirst ... 101819202122 ... LastLast
Results 191 to 200 of 242

Thread: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

  1. #191
    Educator Starbuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-01-17 @ 11:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    881

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's kind of like a vicious circle that no one really ever wins.
    I think that pretty well sums it up, a vicious cycle.

    Today's PC term is tomorrow's insult and yesterdays unacceptable behavior/ opinion is today's norm. As you've said, there will always be 'offendees,' and ignorant people out there.

    No one person really wins, but I think that it's an overall reflection of societies opinion.

    Kind of free market.

  2. #192
    Educator Starbuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-01-17 @ 11:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    881

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's pretentious and goody goody in nature, making no allowances for human weakness and flaws or forgiveness, based on a restrictive morality not inline with freedom, equity or the law.
    Honestly, I think that our 'PC' culture has always made allowances for human weakness and flaws.

    Taking Mr. Sterling as an example, if he was just some janitor working for the clippers who said exactly the same thing, we wouldn't be talking about it right now and he might have been reprimanded (at most) for his actions.

    Power is a very tangible and alterable thing, and there isn't much room for weakness at the top.

  3. #193
    Sage
    AlbqOwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New Mexico
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:54 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,571
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree with a lot of this, but I don't think people are necessarily sinister and evil as much as they are just wrapped up in their own ideologies so much so that they overreact to a given situation.
    No it is evil even when somebody convinces themselves they are doing good. I'm sure Hitler thought what he was doing was the right thing to do. Ditto Lenin. Ditto Marx. Ditto Japan when they bombed Pearl Harbor. Ditto Muslim extremists when they commit terrorist acts or behead their victims. They all believe they are doing good. None believe they are over reacting. But it is still evil in its result and effect regardless of what those who do it believe their motives are.

    Justice requires us to ask ourselves: would we want the KKK or the Westboro Baptists or Code Pink to dictate what our point of view must be, what we are allowed to think, speak, and who we must be in order to be able to live our lives in peace? If our answer is "no", then we have to understand that neither do we have any moral authority to dictate to others what they are allowed to think, speak, or who they must be in order to be allowed to live their lives in peace.

    My personal code is to judge people on what they DO and not on who and what they are. It is the only code I can support and defend and justify.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

  4. #194
    Sage
    Moot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:04 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    27,474

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    No. That would be an Emily Post or Miss Manners rules of etiquette of his day, a very different animal from political correctness. In not a single one of that long list of rules for good manners does he express what anybody is supposed to speak or think about anything. He does offer some suggestions of how to be courteous when we do speak and how to be thoughtful and considerate of others.

    Being militantly anti-PC, which I am, is not license to be rude, cruel, hateful, insensitive, or presume moral superiority.
    Anyone who actually read the entire list can't help but notice a lot of focus on "class distinction". In fact, there was almost an entirely different set of rules for the way one is to behave and treat those deemed superior as opposed to those deemed less superior. Wouldn't that qualify as political correctness in Washington's day?
    Last edited by Moot; 05-04-14 at 06:25 PM.

  5. #195
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Honestly, I think that our 'PC' culture has always made allowances for human weakness and flaws.

    Taking Mr. Sterling as an example, if he was just some janitor working for the clippers who said exactly the same thing, we wouldn't be talking about it right now and he might have been reprimanded (at most) for his actions.

    Power is a very tangible and alterable thing, and there isn't much room for weakness at the top.
    That's a double standard that shouldn't exist for people, regardless of their position.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  6. #196
    Educator Starbuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-01-17 @ 11:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    881

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    That's a double standard that shouldn't exist for people, regardless of their position.
    How is it a double standard?

    If the janitor somehow managed to weasel his/ her way up to CEO, then the standard would apply.

    In higher positions, weakness is more detrimental and less tolerated. That's just a general concept, which applies across the board. The inability to control the words the come out of your mouth is a weakness, which isn't generally tolerated in some institutions.

  7. #197
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Last Seen
    07-16-14 @ 01:18 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    47,571

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    No it is evil even when somebody convinces themselves they are doing good. I'm sure Hitler thought what he was doing was the right thing to do. Ditto Lenin. Ditto Marx. Ditto Japan when they bombed Pearl Harbor. Ditto Muslim extremists when they commit terrorist acts or behead their victims. They all believe they are doing good. None believe they are over reacting. But it is still evil in its result and effect regardless of what those who do it believe their motives are.

    Justice requires us to ask ourselves: would we want the KKK or the Westboro Baptists or Code Pink to dictate what our point of view must be, what we are allowed to think, speak, and who we must be in order to be able to live our lives in peace? If our answer is "no", then we have to understand that neither do we have any moral authority to dictate to others what they are allowed to think, speak, or who they must be in order to be allowed to live their lives in peace.

    My personal code is to judge people on what they DO and not on who and what they are. It is the only code I can support and defend and justify.
    I don't really attribute these types of acts to "evil" as much as I do to mental illness, and I don't really think it's fair to compare the politically correct crowd with Hitler. The PC crowd just doesn't seem to understand the way real life works.

  8. #198
    Light△Bender

    grip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    ☚ ☛
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 02:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,224
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    How is it a double standard?

    If the janitor somehow managed to weasel his/ her way up to CEO, then the standard would apply.

    In higher positions, weakness is more detrimental and less tolerated. That's just a general concept, which applies across the board. The inability to control the words the come out of your mouth is a weakness, which isn't generally tolerated in some institutions.

    Because it's not fair to judge someone harsher because of their position in life. It's not the way the law works, nor should it be the way society judges. If we're all equal, then we should be treated that way. In your concept, someones achievement equates them as better than others.

    Though in reality someone in a more notable position will be given more attention, therefore more judgment. Some will say, with position and fame comes more scrutiny and worthiness, but that's still not really fair.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

  9. #199
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Last Seen
    07-16-14 @ 01:18 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    47,571

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    I think that pretty well sums it up, a vicious cycle.

    Today's PC term is tomorrow's insult and yesterdays unacceptable behavior/ opinion is today's norm. As you've said, there will always be 'offendees,' and ignorant people out there.

    No one person really wins, but I think that it's an overall reflection of societies opinion.

    Kind of free market.
    This is true, but there are certain groups who will go out of their way to ruin a person's life and livelihood over a comment.

  10. #200
    Sage
    AlbqOwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New Mexico
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:54 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,571
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Anyone who actually read the entire list can't help but notice a lot of focus on "class distinction". In fact, there was almost an entirely different set of rules for the way one is to behave and treat those deemed superior as opposed to those deemed less superior. Wouldn't that qualify as political correctness in Washington's day?
    No. Again it was a matter of good manners which was really grilled into folks from the earliest American settlers up until sometime in the late 20th Century. We all knew different standards applied to different settings, different standards applied to the young vs the old, etc. Sometimes it dictated how something should be expressed--we were to be polite and not rude--and certain bad words were not to be used in polite company. But there was never any effort to do mind/thought/speech control as you have in political correctness, and there is not even the slightest inference of that in that list of good manners attributed to Washington.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

Page 20 of 25 FirstFirst ... 101819202122 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •