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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Simply that everybody is different and people need to grow thicker skins.
    There's nothing politically incorrect in declaring everyone is different. Thicker skins is a fine idea as well. Neither of these things are in conflict with PC.

    I don't think you understand what PC is at all. I think someone has fed you lies about PC and has intentionally distorted the intentions and meaning of PC.

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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I would fire somebody who broke the rules of my business or organization. That's what the NBA claims Sterling did and why he was being fired. Whether a private conversation unethically taped qualifies as breaking the rules is something for the NBA and Sterling and perhaps his lawyers to sort out and might need to be decided by a judge. While I do not condone racist speech by anybody, and while I don't know all the details of that particular issue, it does bother me that a PRIVATE conservation can break anybody's rules. Who among us has never expressed an opinion in private to somebody that would not look good if it was made public? And who among us will ever feel safe if all somebody has to do to destroy us is to get us to say something privately or intercept a conversation that would look really bad if made public? How can any one of us feel that there is liberty in such a system? How could any of us dare to be who and what we are ever again?
    The problem is that it became public. No matter whose fault it is, you don't want to be the NBA and stand before black people defending a racist.

    I understand what you're saying, but as far as the NBA's actions go it's completely understandable. They couldn't shove the toothpaste back in, it was out and all they could do was clean it up.


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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Just an observation from the Sterling fallout in the NBA, or CEO's resigning because they supported a political cause that was unpopular with the masses or the usual media fauxrage (Huffington Post headlines cough cough) that every time some politician (usually from the GOP) makes some sort of statement about gays or minorities or anything that the mainstream thinks is unacceptable and must be spread out across the internet so that outrage can pile on outrage. Is it getting out of hand or should it continue?

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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    How is calling your buddy retarded, who just did something dumb, something that deserves criticism? THAT is retarded. Or is it slow... or dim witted? Of is it mentally challenged? Or did you get off the short bus? The dumb part is getting defensive about terms. If I call my ex's new guy a midget because he is short that is an insult to him... not to midgets. All this defensive attack posture is what is making things worse. Worrying about offending people all the time makes matters worse.

    I called a black guy an African American in an attempt to be PC. He called me a racist and that he was an American that was black. I later called another guy a black American and he heard about it and thought THAT was racist and he wanted to be called an African American.

    **** ALL THOSE THAT ARE SENSITVE LITTLE BITCHES that want to attack attack attack. It is total bull****.
    There is certainly a point at which these things go too far. For example, I live in a place where it's been deemed offensive to say "asian carp" or "Columbus Day." The problem is that when we worry about stupid sh*t like that, it lowers people's sensitivity to real live racism.

    All the defenses here in this thread are about the stupid sh*t, and completely misses what was said by people like Sterling.


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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The problem is that it became public. No matter whose fault it is, you don't want to be the NBA and stand before black people defending a racist.

    I understand what you're saying, but as far as the NBA's actions go it's completely understandable. They couldn't shove the toothpaste back in, it was out and all they could do was clean it up.
    But the 'clean up' seems to be using a hazmat industrial clean up process for what should have been a quick swipe with the dish cloth and its done. Of course the NBA should not condone racist language, and certainly those representing the NBA should say so. But it would have been so simple for them to have condemned the language and attitude, but said that it was a private conversation never intended to be public and as such was outside the jurisdiction of the NBA--that there was no evidence that Sterling had utilized bigoted or racist policies within his organization. And, if the PC police had stayed out of then, it would have been a ripple in the media for a couple of days and it would be over. And chances are Sterling would have been more careful about how he phrased things in the future.

    My point is, if all anybody--our competitors, our rivals, or whatever--have to do to destroy us is to catch us in making some politically incorrect statement or simply accusing us, then nobody is safe. Nobody will ever again be able to be who and what they are openly and without fear that some angry mob will descend on them and punish them for using an unacceptable phrase or word or for holding an unacceptable opinion about something.

    If we all don't start pushing back on this, there will be no liberty in America.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    There's nothing politically incorrect in declaring everyone is different. Thicker skins is a fine idea as well. Neither of these things are in conflict with PC.

    I don't think you understand what PC is at all. I think someone has fed you lies about PC and has intentionally distorted the intentions and meaning of PC.
    I know what PC is. And while I may have a thick skin many PC people do not and take offense at almost anything. And I also believe people should be allowed to express themselves freely- if some people call handicapped people cripples or utter racist words then its their right to do so.

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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I have several issues against Political Correctness. Im going to be blunt so Im prepared to be accused of all sorts of things but here goes:

    Firstly, it presents a false illusion of reality by attempting to make everyone equal when it fact it can never happen. ie. a retard who is labeled "mentally challenged" doesnt make him any smarter. Or a dwarf who is labeled as "vertically challenged" doesnt make him any taller.

    Secondly, it is hypocritical in that it can be abused by some segments of the population such as when black people call each other the N-word is acceptable but when any other race utters it is akin to a warcrime and be labeled as racist.

    Thirdly, it forces people to hide their true feelings and covers the truth due to the fact that now when someone makes a statement that isnt in sync with popular thinking they are made to suffer civil penalties (the loss of one's job, massive fines, ejection from public gatherings, media harassment, etc.); how long till these civil penalties become criminal?

    Political correctness covers up the truth and fights intolerance with intolerance.
    So in answer to my question, "what do you want to say but feel prevented from doing so because of political correctness?" Your answers can be summed up as,

    *you want to call a "vertically challenged" person a "dwarf."
    *you want to call a mentally challenged person a "retard."
    *You want to be able to use the n word.

    Is that about right?

    As for expressing unpopular opinions, there's a time and a place for everything. I don't bring up politics with my clients, no matter how "true" my thoughts on the matter are.
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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I know what PC is. And while I may have a thick skin many PC people do not and take offense at almost anything. And I also believe people should be allowed to express themselves freely- if some people call handicapped people cripples or utter racist words then its their right to do so.
    And it is their right to do so, but it is also the right of polite society to call them out on being hateful a-holes.

    The right to say those things is not a free pass from social consequences.


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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But the 'clean up' seems to be using a hazmat industrial clean up process for what should have been a quick swipe with the dish cloth and its done. Of course the NBA should not condone racist language, and certainly those representing the NBA should say so. But it would have been so simple for them to have condemned the language and attitude, but said that it was a private conversation never intended to be public and as such was outside the jurisdiction of the NBA--that there was no evidence that Sterling had utilized bigoted or racist policies within his organization. And, if the PC police had stayed out of then, it would have been a ripple in the media for a couple of days and it would be over. And chances are Sterling would have been more careful about how he phrased things in the future.

    My point is, if all anybody--our competitors, our rivals, or whatever--have to do to destroy us is to catch us in making some politically incorrect statement or simply accusing us, then nobody is safe. Nobody will ever again be able to be who and what they are openly and without fear that some angry mob will descend on them and punish them for using an unacceptable phrase or word or for holding an unacceptable opinion about something.

    If we all don't start pushing back on this, there will be no liberty in America.
    What about the freedom of people to disagree? If you want to run around calling black folks "n*ggers," by all means do so. But the rest of us have the freedom to call you out. (I mean "you" in the general sense, not you personally)


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    Re: Is There Too Much Political Correctness Now?

    For the record, Michelle O is a very lovely woman,. and in her day, Hilary looked ok, too. But that doesn't mean that they're not horrific statists.

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