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Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

Was the punishment too harsh?

  • Yes

    Votes: 56 60.2%
  • No

    Votes: 37 39.8%

  • Total voters
    93
Any time you group an entire race of people together and claim that they are all the same you're being a racist.

No it's not, it called being prejudice, prejudging someone. Being prejudice isn't necessary being racist.

Racism is believing that one race or ethnicity is inferior to another.
 
Ya, it's disgusting on all fronts.

His comments were disgusting.

The woman who recorded and released private conversations is disgusting.

The reaction, ruining a mans livelihood based on his personal private beliefs is disgusting.

So, where do we go from here? Should we black list people from employment based on private conversations, the NSA is doing their part in logging those conversations, so, let's make sure that anyone expressing any opinion that might offend anyone has their lives ruined?

I think George Orwell's "1984" has finally arrived in America. The Thought Police are now in your homes.

That's what's really disgusting.

Anyone with a smart phone could be recording you without your knowledge.
 
No it's not, it called being prejudice, prejudging someone. Being prejudice isn't necessary being racist.

Racism is believing that one race or ethnicity is inferior to another.

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
 
rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

I think you got it.
 
rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

Everyone's racist then. I know lots of people who assume all black men are hung, all Asians excel at math, etc.
 
Everyone's racist then. I know lots of people who assume all black men are hung, all Asians excel at math, etc.

You know a lot of stupid people then.
 
Everyone's racist then. I know lots of people who assume all black men are hung, all Asians excel at math, etc.

I think almost everyone is racist to some extent. I think it comes down to a matter of whether or not you make the choice to indulge it. There are lots of thoughts and feelings that occur to us as humans that we choose notto indulge for various reasons. Every time the woman sitting next to me at work smacks her gum I want to punch her in the throat. But I don't actually do it.
 
Was Sterling's punishment too harsh?

Let's see ..

.. He, a man of reputable questionable social ethics, made a statement he clearly expected to be made in confidence, whereby he revealed what was unquestionably a character-defect insecurity of his to an arguably expected confidant, albeit the confidant, Stiviano, being of dubious character and in definite recent conflict of interest (owing to the fact that Sterling's estranged wife was suing her for attempting to bilk Sterling of "the family money", such bilking attempts being an apparent scamming history of Stiviano's), that, despite his rather sizable ego, especially for and 80-year-old man, the insecurity he was communicating to Stiviano was that he was actually sexually intimidated by African American athletes, likely owing to both his age and his NBA inside knowledge of the Black NBA athlete culture of having a booty-call woman in various NBA cities enjoyed when on the road, a culture every NBA insider knows exists (how Magic Johnson acquired HIV, despite being married at the time), something about which Stiviano also certainly knows, being an NBA insider herself of a short-term and limited (perhaps even sexual) degree, and who, having been Sterling's 31-year-old girlfriend and aware of his insecurities revealed during pillow talk, was perhaps engaging in knowledgeable and premeditated intentional baiting of Sterling into his insecurities-based comment that he made, so that she, no longer, thanks to the lawsuit, having legal free access to "gifts" from the Sterling fortune, such as her 1.8 million-dollar home, half-a-million in cars, a few hundred thou in spending money (making her really perhaps just a "high-class" hooker), was simply planning to use Sterling to vengefully get back at the estranged wife who's suing her and cutting off her sugar-daddy funds, exposing his understandable and baited response to the world via unconscionable betrayal to TMZ, thinking that the "nuke" punishment fallout that would most certainly ensue as a result would, in "I'll teach you!" fashion, hurt everyone: the estranged wife, Sterling, Sterling's Clippers, all those associated with the NBA, including the fans, the playoffs, everything and everyone in the vicinity of her detonation .. but her.

(Wow -- I'm out of breath!)

So, is his punishment for trusting a clearly untrustworthy person with the same kind of confiding revealing his defects of character, the kind of confiding of one's deeper insecurities that one might hear in a therapist's office or a 12-step meeting or in any bedroom between lovers that just about every one of us has at one time or another expressed in some form owing in origin to the fact that just about every one of us was exposed to character-defect-creating dysfunction in our family-of-origin, and that, in this case, less likely reveals bigotry but reflects an insider's insecurities stemming from his knowledge of an inside reality that most insiders want to keep quiet, too harsh?

Well, beats me. Maybe, it is. And, maybe it isn't.

But, what I do experience as obviously apparent, is that ..

.. Stiviano is pretty scummy, and I would be happy if she was banned for life from the NBA ..

.. Sterling's ego is so large .. and fragile .. that he might have never given it much thought about how untrustworthy Stiviano clearly was ..

.. There's a lot of reality implied in the fact-based reason why Sterling was sexually intimidated by Black NBA athletes, a lot of NBA culture reality that many in the NBA would rather have kept quiet, resulting in a ton of insider feigned moral outrage, in the hope that Sterling goes away, and his implied reminder goes with him ..

.. And, of course, there's politics, politics, politics all over this one, so with all the agendas flying, who can be trusted to be telling their "moral" truth about how "outraged" they really are, and, about what.

For me, the moral of the story is clearly that if you want to trust someone with your insecurities, make darn sure it's someone who's trustworthy, if you can, ..

.. And, if you go to a 12-Step meeting, insist that everyone turn off their cell phones when the meeting begins ..

.. And make sure anyone you sleep with signs a contract that they will not reveal anything said "in bed" to anyone else.

(What a sad, sad mess all the way around!)

The price of broken trust is huge in this electronic gadget day and age, sadly reminding everyone that there is a degree of value in keeping their insecurities to themselves, no matter how emotionally isolating and unhealthy that may be.

(What a world, what a world!)
 
Quite simply put...Any punishment he receives is entirely up to those he voluntarily "Works For". and thus cannot be too harsh.

Much like Paula Dean, he expressed his own opinions which were considered "Bad" by society and became public. He screwed up and is paying for it...I have no pity for stupidity and ignorance.
 
Millions in penalties and a lifetime ban for a thoughtcrime? Come on.
 
I think George Orwell's "1984" has finally arrived in America. The Thought Police are now in your homes.

That's what's really disgusting.

Anyone with a smart phone could be recording you without your knowledge.

Either you never read 1984 or you don't understand that the point of it was the role of government in our lives....where is the government in this story?
 
Either you never read 1984 or you don't understand that the point of it was the role of government in our lives....where is the government in this story?
I think he is referring to the concepts of thoughtcrime and the thoughtpolice in the novel, in which mere words are considered a criminal offense. The death of free speech, so to speak.
 
Millions in penalties and a lifetime ban for a thoughtcrime? Come on.

Had he kept it as mere thought...no one would care, or even know. Instead he allowed his thoughts to become public knowledge and due to his position and history it became a big deal. He is not truly being punished for what he said....he is paying for being an idiot.
 
I think he is referring to the concepts of thoughtcrime and the thoughtpolice in the novel, in which mere words are considered a criminal offense. The death of free speech, so to speak.

so it doesn't apply to this case...thank you
 
Had he kept it as mere thought...no one would care, or even know. Instead he allowed his thoughts to become public knowledge and due to his position and history it became a big deal. He is not truly being punished for what he said....he is paying for being an idiot.
No one disputes he is an idiot but paying millions in fines and a lifetime ban from his own team is ridiculous.
 
No one disputes he is an idiot but paying millions in fines and a lifetime ban from his own team is ridiculous.

It is not my call....anymore than Walmart firing someone for stupidity.
 
Spare us the drama. An owner of a major sports franchise stating his dislike for black people should result in a PR nightmare for the organization.

Oh I'm sorry. I should have said instead "Our country is so wonderful! We all are supposed to now hold hands say how much we all love everybody! Shame on Sterling for not falling in line! He didn't read the memo that said he's not supposed to tell his girlfriend who he wants her to hang out with. I mean, isn't that the most important thing we have to worry about in the USA - who people's girlfriends take selfies with?"
 
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Actually it does, those concepts are found in the book.

yes the government setting rules for thought and speech. Again that is not happening here.
 
Nope, not at all. The NBA has every right to protect their franchises and their brand. This is exactly what they are doing here. He has publicly disgraced not only himself but the Clippers and the league. It does not matter how his comments came to light, and honestly, it's a shame that he wasn't outed before. This is a man who illegally denied housing to people on the basis of race. Which is FAR worse than his comments here, obviously.

Have fun getting sponsors with the outed racist owning one of your franchises; have fun getting free agents to come play for the racist; have fun getting your own players to stay with the team; have fun getting your fans to buy anything associated with the Clippers while Sterling owns the team.

He was outed before. Long ago. You even mentioned one of the cases against him. The players had no problem playing for him before this. The fans had no problem with him before this. The NAACP had no problem with him before this.
 
He was outed before. Long ago. You even mentioned one of the cases against him. The players had no problem playing for him before this. The fans had no problem with him before this. The NAACP had no problem with him before this.

Straw that broke the camel's back.
 
So now I'm reading lots of posts from people who support this fine & banishment simply because it makes sense from a business perspective. The NBA was worried about financial ramifications and their "image". Fair enough. So now capitalism and free markets making decisions based on their "image" and financial repercussions will be enthusiastically supported by everyone, yes?
 
I think it was to much.....and the way the MS media and all others are making it the Hot Button issue over all other hot news. Is ridiculous.

Now what the MS media and all those that jumped on the Bandwagon need to do and what others should do. Especially Whites, Latinos, Asians and any others is to record and take pictures of when all those Black Athletes that just couldn't stand for any of this..... is out there using racial terminology.

Then.....we can destroy their careers and make them a mockery with the public. Then if it is one that jumped on this bandwagon. They can be called out for the hypocrites they are.

Lets see if the thought police wants to still play the game. I don't think they will like all those athletes losing all that they are and all that they will ever be. With their C average educations.
 
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