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Thread: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    I think the banning for life is an overreaction. Too bad the NBA couldn't just adjust the players' contracts and give them an out if they didn't want to work for Sterling anymore.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I made no such suggestion. The nature of his reprehensible remarks are beyond controversy. I merely explained why the NBA Commissioner needed to act forcefully. Given how much was at stake, he needed to act decisively. Had he acted weakly, the NBA and all NBA franchises would have suffered harm as advertisers and audiences reduced their appetite for the NBA. Hence, it is very likely that the Commissioner will gain sufficient support to compel the sale of the Clippers. A unanimous vote is a strong possibility.
    I can see your point. No doubt, the Commissioner was in a very tough spot. This story has spread like wildfire and I think people are reacting without seeing the whole picture. The man -- as reprehensible as he is -- spoke in confidence. I would be all for the stern punishment had he said such vile words directly to the press or at a speaking engagement.
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tralfamadore View Post
    Privacy from the government.

    In my state, my spouse can legally record whatever the hell she wants, so long as she gives consent to it and she is a party in the conversation.

    Think of it this way: If I knew my employer was acting discriminatory (in a private conversation), either towards me or towards someone else, it makes little sense to say, "Hey, I know this is a private conversation, but you don't mind if I record this, do you?"
    So you're okay with people now having a vested interest in private conversations?

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I can see your point. No doubt, the Commissioner was in a very tough spot. This story has spread like wildfire and I think people are reacting without seeing the whole picture. The man -- as reprehensible as he is -- spoke in confidence. I would be all for the stern punishment had he said such vile words directly to the press or at a speaking engagement.
    Can you really blame them for the punishment with the consequences facing them? With all the sponsors pulling out and the NBA Players Association threatening to boycott during the playoffs if Sterling wasn't severely punished it gave the commissioner no choice.

    The real problem is the outrage over his comments that forced the commissioner's hand in this.
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I can see your point. No doubt, the Commissioner was in a very tough spot. This story has spread like wildfire and I think people are reacting without seeing the whole picture. The man -- as reprehensible as he is -- spoke in confidence. I would be all for the stern punishment had he said such vile words directly to the press or at a speaking engagement.
    The NBA had to protect itself, especially as it came out that they knew about this man's tendencies and ignored them for decades, like the NAACP did. This was to save face (and money).

    That said, this man's words didn't hurt anyone, nor did any of his actions that I'm aware of. This should never have gotten to the point that the NBA had to take action. People's private words should remain just that. If people had any balls, they'd say that. I'm not a public figure so I can't, but I'm waiting for one person to say just that. BFD, he doesn't like black people personally. I don't like the French and I really don't like the assholes in Canada who club baby seals. Does that make me a bad person? It should, by the logic I'm reading.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So you're okay with people now having a vested interest in private conversations?
    I'm saying that I do not expect to be completely free from the possibility that someone in my place of residence could possibly be recording what I say.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I think the banning for life is an overreaction. Too bad the NBA couldn't just adjust the players' contracts and give them an out if they didn't want to work for Sterling anymore.
    And how many of those players were aware of his racism as most were in that click due to the public controversy in other matters Sterling had been involved, still went ahead and renewed contracts knowing? Maybe because they were not treated badly by him even though others of their race were? Sorry, all those who judged him harshly today knew who he was years ago and all his players who shared outrage did too. Hypocrites is the word that comes to mind.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tralfamadore View Post
    I'm saying that I do not expect to be completely free from the possibility that someone in my place of residence could possibly be recording what I say.
    I'm not asking about someone recording you. I'm asking your opinion about people's private words becoming a national discussion, and people to no longer have an expectation of privacy.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    It doesn't go both ways. Want to see one of the most outspoken racists ever? Flip to a halftime show during any game on TNT.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    For his racist comments caught on tape, Clippers owner Donald Sterling recently had this ruling put on him by NBA commissioner Adam Silver:

    $2.5M fine (maximum allowed in by-laws)
    Lifetime ban from NBA games
    Lifetime ban from NBA function
    Zero access to facilities during Clippers games and practices
    Urging by the BoD to owners for forced divestiture of ownership



    Was the hammer too great, or spot on?

    Also to take into consideration:

    He spoke these words on his private property
    He broke no actual laws
    His girlfriend broke the law by recording him without his knowledge
    They are a private organizaation entitled to impose whatever penalty their contract (that he signed) calls for. Sans that? I think it was too harsh.

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