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Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

Was the punishment too harsh?

  • Yes

    Votes: 56 60.2%

  • No

    Votes: 37 39.8%
  • Total voters
    93
DiAnna said:
The girlfriend should be charged both criminally (although it's just a misdemeanor, I understand) and civilly, where Sterling's lawyers will strip her of everything including her snagged pantyhose by the time they are done with her in court.
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Ms. Stiviano doesn't wear pantyhose, or panties.

Do women still wear pantyhose ?

But Ms. Stiviano's real name at birth was Maria Vanessa Perez. According to court documents, Ms. Stiviano is the result from the rape of her mother by a black man.

As you may have heard on the tape, Ms. Stiviano claims to be "mixed." I believe mixed up in the head because in 2010 she believed she was Italian and petitioned the court to change her name from Maria Perez to V. Stiviano.
 
APACHERAT said:
Ms. Stiviano doesn't wear pantyhose, or panties.

Do women still wear pantyhose ?

But Ms. Stiviano's real name at birth was Maria Vanessa Perez. According to court documents, Ms. Stiviano is the result from the rape of her mother by a black man.

As you may have heard on the tape, Ms. Stiviano claims to be "mixed." I believe mixed up in the head because in 2010 she believed she was Italian and petitioned the court to change her name from Maria Perez to V. Stiviano.
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Who gives a crap?
 
SgtRock said:
Amen who gives a crap. All that maters is that we understand that Donald Sterling a racist bigot and a lifetime democrat.
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Except for the fact that he's a registered Republican.

Donald Sterling Is a Registered Republican | Mother Jones

His party affiliation doesn't matter either way, but if you're going to claim it does, at least have the common ****ing decency to get it right rather than hackishly wrong.
 
DiAnna said:
If he has been violating EEOC housing rules for years and getting away with it, that's on the government. My guess is that palms were being greased, political donations were being passed out, and those who could have held him accountable for his behavior merely profited from it. Whole 'nother ball of worms.

Here we have a man who, based on a single phone call, has not only been fined, but has been barred from basketball for life, which essentially strips him of ownership of his team. I believe it's excessive, probably because the NBA has known for decades what a racist scum Stirling is and leapt at the chance to get him out of the game altogether. However, you mustn't lose sight of the fact that just about everyone in the league has known what a racist dickwad Stirling is, yet they still took his money and said thank you very much. Now everyone smells blood and has their hooks out to take ALL of his money all at once, and keep it for themselves.

Ahem. I don't think that what the NBA did was legal, but that's for contract law lawyers to hash out in the months to come. It reeks of overkill, retribution, and greed. That's just my opinion. As I've said, Stirling is scum and I won't lose a minute's sleep over it.
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He was tried by the Justice Department and made a deal to settle out of court. That is when the league should have taken the team away; it is a disgrace that they didn't act then.

He's worth 1.9 billion dollars and will likely make close to another billion in the sale of the team, no one is taking all of this money. No one is taking even enough money that he would bend over and pick it up if it fell on the floor. The money, to me, is a moot point. He'll die a billionaire someday.

What the NBA did was perfectly legal. They have every right to protect their brand, to protect their teams, and to protect their monetary interests. When someone buys a NBA franchise they agree to certain rules, one of which is to not defame the league, which is what Stirling did.
 
APACHERAT said:
Ms. Stiviano doesn't wear pantyhose, or panties.

Do women still wear pantyhose ?

But Ms. Stiviano's real name at birth was Maria Vanessa Perez. According to court documents, Ms. Stiviano is the result from the rape of her mother by a black man.

As you may have heard on the tape, Ms. Stiviano claims to be "mixed." I believe mixed up in the head because in 2010 she believed she was Italian and petitioned the court to change her name from Maria Perez to V. Stiviano.
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this might be a case of "stretching" the truth!
 
Gipper said:
For his racist comments caught on tape, Clippers owner Donald Sterling recently had this ruling put on him by NBA commissioner Adam Silver:

$2.5M fine (maximum allowed in by-laws)
Lifetime ban from NBA games
Lifetime ban from NBA function
Zero access to facilities during Clippers games and practices
Urging by the BoD to owners for forced divestiture of ownership



Was the hammer too great, or spot on?

Also to take into consideration:

He spoke these words on his private property
He broke no actual laws
His girlfriend broke the law by recording him without his knowledge
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Your last point is irrelevant
 
APACHERAT said:
Be careful what you say, unless you have 2.5 million dollars to pay your fine the Thought Police are listening to you.
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You understand the NBA doesn't have any control over your life right.
 
Sababa said:
You understand the NBA doesn't have any control over your life right.
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They do over his. He signed some rights away in his contract with them. (We do that all the time.)
 
Gipper said:
For his racist comments caught on tape, Clippers owner Donald Sterling recently had this ruling put on him by NBA commissioner Adam Silver:

$2.5M fine (maximum allowed in by-laws)
Lifetime ban from NBA games
Lifetime ban from NBA function
Zero access to facilities during Clippers games and practices
Urging by the BoD to owners for forced divestiture of ownership



Was the hammer too great, or spot on?

Also to take into consideration:

He spoke these words on his private property
He broke no actual laws
His girlfriend broke the law by recording him without his knowledge
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He represents one of the last hurdles in human evolution. He needs to be silenced, ostracised, shunned by decent people and forgotten when he dies. Same with everyone like him. That kind of tribalism should not be tolerated under any circumstances and needs to be confronted whenever it rears it's ugly, pox-ridden face.
 
MaggieD said:
They do over his. He signed some rights away in his contract with them. (We do that all the time.)
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agreed but the question was for everyone.
 
APACHERAT said:
Be careful what you say, unless you have 2.5 million dollars to pay your fine the Thought Police are listening to you.
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Since when did the NBA become the government of the US?
 
Your Star said:
He was tried by the Justice Department and made a deal to settle out of court. That is when the league should have taken the team away; it is a disgrace that they didn't act then.
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If organizations acted every time someone settled out of court, innocent people (for the most part) would be harmed. Setting such a precedence is absurd.
 
A bit much. The monetary fine would have been sufficient, public pressure would have taken care of the rest without the league having to set a precedent. After all it may have to follow with a star player that says something stupid or racist. Examples abound already where this standard could have been pressed.
 
APACHERAT said:
Be careful what you say, unless you have 2.5 million dollars to pay your fine the Thought Police are listening to you.
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And who, exactly, is going to make me pay a $2.5 million dollar fine? The NBA?
 
Your Star said:
Since when did the NBA become the government of the US?
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Where did you hear that from ?

I do remember that they used a Marine V-22 Osprey to transport a bunch of Obama's basketballs from the White House to Martha's Vineyard.
 
DiAnna said:
The girlfriend should be charged both criminally (although it's just a misdemeanor, I understand) and civilly, where Sterling's lawyers will strip her of everything including her snagged pantyhose by the time they are done with her in court.
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Geez.
Yeah that's relevant to the problem. That'll adjust the scales of justice to an acceptable level. It'll be good to know that equilibrium has been satisfied and a judge is still able to decide that something never happened.
 
APACHERAT said:
Where did you hear that from ?

I do remember that they used a Marine V-22 Osprey to transport a bunch of Obama's basketballs from the White House to Martha's Vineyard.
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Sure they did.
 
Grand Mal said:
Geez.
Yeah that's relevant to the problem. That'll adjust the scales of justice to an acceptable level. It'll be good to know that equilibrium has been satisfied and a judge is still able to decide that something never happened.
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Either you didn't understand me properly, or I didn't understand you. Either way, I suspect we are talking past each other.
 
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