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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You don't understand that the word is not being used as pejorative in such cases? How could anyone not understand that?
    Of course I understand that... how could anybody think that somebody didn't actually understand that.

    Because him being a racist is the same as using the word 'nigga' as 'friend'?
    The point is that it is hypocritical but I do love the fact that you think that you are clever.
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Don't you understand? He's a victim of the evil Joo media that covers up crimes by blacks and sensationalizes crimes by whites in order to facilitate the secret race war.

    Wake up white people!!
    I used to think that you had some smarts... now all I see is a whiney drama queen.
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The point is that it is hypocritical but I do love the fact that you think that you are clever.
    What's hypocritical? Being against racism?

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What's hypocritical? Being against racism?
    Claiming to be against racism while using racist jargon is hypocritical. I am sorry you can't grasp this. Truly.
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Claiming to be against racism while using racist jargon is hypocritical. I am sorry you can't grasp this. Truly.
    The word 'nigga', used to mean 'friend' is not racist. Further, minorities cannot be racist in any socially meaningful way. As racism is a social construct, and not an individual creation, minorities thereby cannot even be racist.

    I'm sorry if blacks using the word in ways not intended makes you unhappy. Good luck overcoming that terrible trauma.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The word 'nigga', used to mean 'friend' is not racist.
    So white people can call other white people nigger or nigga in front of black people without any negative connotation?

    Yeah... I thought so. Your idea is utter bull****.

    Further, minorities cannot be racist in any socially meaningful way. As racism is a social construct, and not an individual creation, minorities thereby cannot even be racist.
    That is one of the most idiotic conclusions that I have ever heard.

    I won't even begin to tear that stupid crap apart because it is literally beyond rational thinking...
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    So white people can call other white people nigger or nigga in front of black people without any negative connotation?

    Yeah... I thought so. Your idea is utter bull****.
    So what? That doesn't make 'nigga', used in a non-pejorative way, racist.

    That is one of the most idiotic conclusions that I have ever heard.

    I won't even begin to tear that stupid crap apart because it is literally beyond rational thinking...
    Racism is a social construct. It cannot be created by an individual. As a social construct, only socially meaningful manifestations are significant. As blacks have no institutional power with which to back their bigotry, they are not capable of racism. They can be racial bigots, but their beliefs will never carry any connotations for me, a white person. They're just pissing in the wind.

    When a black says they hate whites, does that threaten you? No, of course not, because it will never affect your ability to get a job, house or fair shake in court.

    When a white says they hate blacks, it carries very real implications for blacks.


    Racists like to ignore this distinction. They also like to ignore the historical implications. They like to reduce the word to the simplest possible meaning, using only the first dictionary definition, in order to draw false equivalence and ignore the very real impacts yesterday and today of actual -socially meaningful- racism.

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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I used to think that you had some smarts... now all I see is a whiney drama queen.
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So what? That doesn't make 'nigga', used in a non-pejorative way, racist.



    Racism is a social construct. It cannot be created by an individual. As a social construct, only socially meaningful manifestations are significant. As blacks have no institutional power with which to back their bigotry, they are not capable of racism. They can be racial bigots, but their beliefs will never carry any connotations for me, a white person. They're just pissing in the wind.

    When a black says they hate whites, does that threaten you? No, of course not, because it will never affect your ability to get a job, house or fair shake in court.

    When a white says they hate blacks, it carries very real implications for blacks.


    Racists like to ignore this distinction. They also like to ignore the historical implications. They like to reduce the word to the simplest possible meaning, using only the first dictionary definition, in order to draw false equivalence and ignore the very real impacts yesterday and today of actual -socially meaningful- racism.
    If a black person hates you because you are white it makes it racist. Being able to get a job is irrelevant. There is no distinction to ignore.

    ...and nigger or nigga used by anybody is racist because if a white guy can't call a black guy that he just met on the courts a nigger without being labelled a racist, or being attacked as a racist, as every rational person knows would happen... then it is reverse racism and hypocritical. I worked in the inner city with gang youths... what is your experience? None, I would bet my life. You are more than likely your prototypical guilt ridden white person that is attempting to justify a social wrong doing... and that is fine. The way that you are doing it though, is wrong.
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    re: Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Not that I mind his punishment, but seriously? He is punished for the "media sensation" he caused in only under a week? In the NBA? Huh?
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    If his comments stayed relatively private - where only a few in the NBA knew about it - do you think the NBA would have done what they have done?

    No. I don't believe they would have. They would have hoped and prayed it stayed private.

    Do you think this is the first time that he had said anything racially charged at all? That, up until that moment, no one knew?

    When was the last time you heard of any organization (corporate / sports / otherwise) punishing someone initially? "We have fired Bill Bransk - CEO of Holdings Incorporated - for racial slurs shared over a series of emails between his wife and his intern" . . . seriously? I can't recall that ever happening except for in, perhaps, law enforcement.
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