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Was Sterling's punishment too much? [W:359]

Was the punishment too harsh?

  • Yes

    Votes: 56 60.2%

  • No

    Votes: 37 39.8%
  • Total voters
    93
tecoyah said:
Quite simply put...Any punishment he receives is entirely up to those he voluntarily "Works For". and thus cannot be too harsh.

Much like Paula Dean, he expressed his own opinions which were considered "Bad" by society and became public. He screwed up and is paying for it...I have no pity for stupidity and ignorance.
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Not at all like Paula Deen. She made her comments in public. His were in private to a trusted confidant. Completely different scenarios.
 
tres borrachos said:
He was outed before. Long ago. You even mentioned one of the cases against him. The players had no problem playing for him before this. The fans had no problem with him before this. The NAACP had no problem with him before this.
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And that is awful; this should have happened sooner.

Doesn't change the fact everything I said is true and that the franchise is screwed with him being the owner.
 
TurtleDude said:
so you don't like rich people and want him being jailed for a thought crime? sounds like some sort of far left marxist idiocy to me
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I don't care if someone is rich. I do care when people use their money and influence to **** over people who don't. Look at this guys history. He is a piece of ****. His racist comments don't mean much to me. If he doesn't like minorities and doesn't act on it I could care less. But he acts. Repeatedly. So you can sit there and pretend that all he has done is make a ****ty comment but he has done far more.
 
Kreton said:
I don't care if someone is rich. I do care when people use their money and influence to **** over people who don't. Look at this guys history. He is a piece of ****. His racist comments don't mean much to me. If he doesn't like minorities and doesn't act on it I could care less. But he acts. Repeatedly. So you can sit there and pretend that all he has done is make a ****ty comment but he has done far more.
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He has done that, the housing discrimination lawsuit is proof of that.

That said, your comment of "and all those like him" could have been construed to mean "all rich people," which I THINK (I don't mean to speak for him) was what set TD off.
 
tres borrachos said:
He was outed before. Long ago. You even mentioned one of the cases against him. The players had no problem playing for him before this. The fans had no problem with him before this. The NAACP had no problem with him before this.
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Hang on.

1. The players have an elite skillset that only 30 people in the country have the ability to pay for, and many of those players are better than others. Let's not just pretend that all the Clippers can walk away from that check and get jobs tomorrow. If you were on a team, would you happily walk (even if you could, contractually) and screw over a friend who might not get signed elsewhere?
2. The fans never had a problem with Sterling? GET REAL. Clippers fans, who barely existed until they got Griffin and Paul, HATED STERLING WITH A PASSION. But if you live in LA, and you're not affluent enough to get Lakers tickets, you go see the Clippers. This is not like getting a haircut, where there's a barber shop down the street that will do the same job. In the greater LA area, there's two places to see top-level basketball -- a luxury that only NY has among American cities.
3. The NAACP award(s) were quite obviously a giveback for face-saving financial contributions. They're hypocrites for accepting his money.

You seem to be under the impression that people who have put their entire financial well-being into a sport where they often have no control over where they play can just comfortably walk away on principle.
 
Kobie said:
He has done that, the housing discrimination lawsuit is proof of that.

That said, your comment of "and all those like him" could have been construed to mean "all rich people," which I THINK (I don't mean to speak for him) was what set TD off.
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I've never said or meant that all rich people are like him. There are a lot of rich people who are good people. Being rich doesn't make someone a piece of ****, but it doesn't exclude him either. This man has trampled on and screwed over people because of their race, sex, social status and family. So as far as I am concerned he deserves anything bad that comes his way or happens to him.
 
Kobie said:
Hang on.

1. The players have an elite skillset that only 30 people in the country have the ability to pay for, and many of those players are better than others. Let's not just pretend that all the Clippers can walk away from that check and get jobs tomorrow. If you were on a team, would you happily walk (even if you could, contractually) and screw over a friend who might not get signed elsewhere?
2. The fans never had a problem with Sterling? GET REAL. Clippers fans, who barely existed until they got Griffin and Paul, HATED STERLING WITH A PASSION. But if you live in LA, and you're not affluent enough to get Lakers tickets, you go see the Clippers. This is not like getting a haircut, where there's a barber shop down the street that will do the same job. In the greater LA area, there's two places to see top-level basketball -- a luxury that only NY has among American cities.
3. The NAACP award(s) were quite obviously a giveback for face-saving financial contributions. They're hypocrites for accepting his money.

You seem to be under the impression that people who have put their entire financial well-being into a sport where they often have no control over where they play can just comfortably walk away on principle.
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Did they have Clippers fans at their games? Yes. Did Doc Rivers know Sterling was a racist? Yes but he took the job anyway. And so on.

The guy has been toxic for years to those who worry about these things. But his green money wasn't being turned down. Until it became a national issue, then all this outrage.

It's hypocrisy, Kobie.
 
Gipper said:
For his racist comments caught on tape, Clippers owner Donald Sterling recently had this ruling put on him by NBA commissioner Adam Silver:

$2.5M fine (maximum allowed in by-laws)
Lifetime ban from NBA games
Lifetime ban from NBA function
Zero access to facilities during Clippers games and practices
Urging by the BoD to owners for forced divestiture of ownership



Was the hammer too great, or spot on?

Also to take into consideration:

He spoke these words on his private property
He broke no actual laws
His girlfriend broke the law by recording him without his knowledge
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the expectation of what should happen to sterling was set at the ceiling(kicked out), anything less then that would be deemed unexceptable by the likes of jaber, johnson, other well known former players/coaches and of course the sports media.

is it legal in what they have decided to do?

yes sterlings comments were racist in nature and his former girl friend is a very unethical person if she is the one that released the audio tape.
 
Gaius46 said:
Not at all like Paula Deen. She made her comments in public. His were in private to a trusted confidant. Completely different scenarios.
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It is rather stupid to assume ANYTHING you say out loud will remain private anymore...particularly when in the public eye.

That he did so makes him rather ignorant, if not absolutely stupid.
 
I like the part where the NBA is' urging' him to sell the team.

What if he refuses? Boycotting the team would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

If I was him... I'd sell, take the huge profit he's bound to make and tell the NBA to kiss his lily white ass.

But thats just me.

;)
 
Kiss that?........eeewwww....no thanks!!!!

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tres borrachos said:
Did they have Clippers fans at their games? Yes. Did Doc Rivers know Sterling was a racist? Yes but he took the job anyway. And so on.

The guy has been toxic for years to those who worry about these things. But his green money wasn't being turned down. Until it became a national issue, then all this outrage.

It's hypocrisy, Kobie.
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History is chock full of people who held their nose and took the money. Case in point: Anyone who has ever received a paycheck signed by Donald Trump.
 
Kreton said:
I've never said or meant that all rich people are like him. There are a lot of rich people who are good people. Being rich doesn't make someone a piece of ****, but it doesn't exclude him either. This man has trampled on and screwed over people because of their race, sex, social status and family. So as far as I am concerned he deserves anything bad that comes his way or happens to him.
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No, but it was implicit in your earlier post. I'm not nailing you to the boards over it; if you had explained your point then like you just did, you might not have gotten the comments you did at the time.
 
Kobie said:
History is chock full of people who held their nose and took the money. Case in point: Anyone who has ever received a paycheck signed by Donald Trump.
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Are you saying that The Donald's people don't like him? Shame on you. I think they enjoy hanging out with such a great guy. Let me guess. You think Marla Maples married him because of his money, don't you? I think she married him because of his hair and sex appeal.:lamo
 
tres borrachos said:
Are you saying that The Donald's people don't like him? Shame on you. I think they enjoy hanging out with such a great guy. Let me guess. You think Marla Maples married him because of his money, don't you? I think she married him because of his hair and sex appeal.:lamo
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Married him because of his money? BALDERDASH. He seems like such a nice man; I'm sure it was his effervescent personality that won her over.
 
reconmark said:
So the newbie isn't here defending a racist and someone else is. Who exactly is looking foolish?
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You are, because I never made a racist post on this board in my 2 years here, and you decided I was a racist. And I never "defended" the guy either.

You may want to catch up before opining.
 
Kobie said:
He has done that, the housing discrimination lawsuit is proof of that.

That said, your comment of "and all those like him" could have been construed to mean "all rich people," which I THINK (I don't mean to speak for him) was what set TD off.
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He wasn't convicted. And given the Feds propensity to twist the law to suit their needs I'd maintain a healthy skepticism about his actual guilt even if he was convicted.
 
reconmark said:
So the newbie isn't here defending a racist and someone else is. Who exactly is looking foolish?
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Pump the brakes, turbo. Tres isn't defending Sterling. She's raising fair points. Read, then comment.
 
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