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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not likely. A team's value isn't based on fan support.

    He'll lose some sponsors, and gain some.
    And it may affect the team's ability to sign quality free agents. You've got problems if you're a pro basketball team and black players don't want to play for you.


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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Being racist, or displaying any other bigotry, is a free speech right but will likely piss off your employer, turn away support from sponsors and reduce the customer/fan base resulting in your employment being terminated (just ask Paula Deen). You can exercise a right and still suffer non-gov't consequences. It is also a right to comment negatively upon the actions, ethnicity, appearance or religion of a stranger but you may well expect to get some lumps and bumps from doing so.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    I think the poll creates a false dichotomy. The idea that something is either a right or should be illegal is flawed. Loads of things aren't rights but are obviously not illegal.

    I'm not convinced being racist (as an the internal attitude and opinion) is an active choice anyway. Someone either is or isn't. You can take conscious actions to try to change your opinion (such as getting to know individuals in the group you object to) but that can only indirectly influence your subconscious conclusions. It's much like religion in that way.

    What you choose to do about it is obvious more significant, in general and in law. A lot of actions "inspired" by religion would/should be illegal anyway of course (acts of violence etc.) but there are plenty of racist actions which should be discouraged, with criminal or civil law being one possible tool to aid that (various employment laws being a classic example).

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And it may affect the team's ability to sign quality free agents. You've got problems if you're a pro basketball team and black players don't want to play for you.
    So at the end of the season, when all the black players and black coaches who work there now quit, the people who live in LA will still get to decide how important this all is to them or not. Same as they do today, really.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Where and when did the right claim it was OK to fire people because they are gay?
    you are saying the right does not support and defend 'at will' employment?
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    I really dislike the false dichotomy presented in the poll.
    IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.
    Free speech in the United States doesn't mean private corporations can't punish you for what you say regardless of the circumstances. It just means that legislators can't pass legislation that prohibits free speech.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    WTF is up with these people who make up such BS, seriously?
    The beauty of free speech is you get to see how deceitful these people are, and their deceit is so blinding and deep they simply think nothing of spouting it out publicly.

    They are simply willing to deny the obvious when it stares them in the face. Luckily, I was a Lib who was curious and not raised to live lies. Once I saw the truth behind the Leftist, I left the Left. I wonder how these folks stomach it after learning their ideology is corrupt to the core and responsible for almost all the government created ills foisted upon society.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Being a racist is a right. Its also despicable.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    All this media blitz on Bundy and The basketball guy has me wondering if we now have thought police in this country. I'm not racist myself but I don't see what the big deal is if you are. We have laws to protect people from racism so your opinion should be a right and you should not be punished for what you believe. IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.
    If you have to preface or suffix something you say with "I'm not a racist, but" you might want to take a closer look at what you're about to say.

    Anyway, you have every right to have racist opinions but you don't have the right to act upon them due to anti-discrimination laws.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Yet another stupid poll. There is no right to be a racist. There is an ABILITY to be a racist. No one can stop you from hating other races, they can simply stop you from acting on that hatred.
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