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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yes. I think you have a right to be a racist. It depends how you mean punishment, do you believe someone has a right to be antiAmerican and not be punished?
    Yes.......
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Holding and/or expressing any opinion is a right. That means that other people have that same right to disagree with you and refuse to do business with you. It does not mean that you have a right to discriminate based on race, religion, ethnicity etc. in a business serving the public or as a governmental official.

    I do not support laws against hate speech because I'm a strong supporter of maximum freedom of expression and sometimes legitimate criticism of a religion or other group could be considered hate speech, for example criticism of the Catholic Church's handling of child molestation allegations against priests.

    I support the right of most* workers to be free from employment discrimination due to their off-work activities, including expression of opinions, and think that protection should be made the law.

    *with limited exceptions for top executives, public relations staff, representatives of an ideology (i.e ministers) and other whose job requires representing an employers policies.
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 05-03-14 at 08:44 PM.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    All this media blitz on Bundy and The basketball guy has me wondering if we now have thought police in this country. I'm not racist myself but I don't see what the big deal is if you are. We have laws to protect people from racism so your opinion should be a right and you should not be punished for what you believe. IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.
    Bundy doesn't deserve to lose his claimed right to land based on his beliefs. The owner of the Clippers does. The difference is the NBA has a code of conduct. Just like the employer I have can tell me how to dreaa and behave while I am on the clock, the NBA can tell owners how to behave as part of their participation in the league. But, Bundy is being "convicted" for beliefs that had no bearing on land management jurisdiction.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But if she did this because she is a 'proud woman of color', she is as racist as he is.
    WTF? How could you arrive at that ass-backwards conclusion?
    Is everyone who outs a racist asshole for what they are a racist?
    That is inside out crazy thinking.
    What if he was a sexist woman hater and his girlfriend reported that to the press...Would that, somehow in your backwards thinking mind, make her a misogynist?

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Bundy doesn't deserve to lose his claimed right to land based on his beliefs. The owner of the Clippers does. The difference is the NBA has a code of conduct. Just like the employer I have can tell me how to dreaa and behave while I am on the clock, the NBA can tell owners how to behave as part of their participation in the league. But, Bundy is being "convicted" for beliefs that had no bearing on land management jurisdiction.
    Nobody convicted Bundy, the racist asshole, except Bundy himself. The federal courts found him guilty of grazing without paying ...but he wasn't convicted of anything.
    His political supporters abandoned him because he decided to volunteer the fact that he was a racist asshole, to the world.
    Nothing can make a political cause more toxic that a revelation that the main player in that cause is a racist asshole.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Nobody convicted Bundy, the racist asshole, except Bundy himself. The federal courts found him guilty of grazing without paying ...but he wasn't convicted of anything.
    His political supporters abandoned him because he decided to volunteer the fact that he was a racist asshole, to the world.
    Nothing can make a political cause more toxic that a revelation that the main player in that cause is a racist asshole.
    Are you going for Guinness World Record for the most contradictions in a sentence fragment?
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Are you going for Guinness World Record for the most contradictions in a sentence fragment?
    Point one out.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    "Nobody convicted Bundy," contradicts "the racist asshole," as it is your own personal conviction.

    "Nobody convicted Bundy," contradicts "The federal courts found him guilty of grazing without paying " contradicts "...but he wasn't convicted of anything."
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    WTF? How could you arrive at that ass-backwards conclusion?
    Is everyone who outs a racist asshole for what they are a racist?
    That is inside out crazy thinking.
    What if he was a sexist woman hater and his girlfriend reported that to the press...Would that, somehow in your backwards thinking mind, make her a misogynist?
    It depends what form the sexism took. If it was just his point of view and he did not inflict it on anybody, then she would be reprehensible to report that to the press. Don't forget, you were the one who pointed out the girlfriend being a person of color. What difference does that make? If she tried to destroy him because she is a woman of color, and for no other reason than she is a woman of color, that would make her a racist.

    I am coming from the point of view that all of us are probably going to be 'unacceptable' to somebody. And I do not wish to live my life in fear that I could wind up on the front pages or lose my job or be made unwelcome anywhere just because I used the wrong word or phrase or expressed a politically incorrect point of view to a trusted friend. If you choose to live your life free of fear that the 'thought police' or 'PC police' could make your life a living hell, you too will agree that people should be allowed to be who and what they are in peace if they are not violating the rights of anybody else.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    "Nobody convicted Bundy," contradicts "the racist asshole," as it is your own personal conviction.

    "Nobody convicted Bundy," contradicts "The federal courts found him guilty of grazing without paying " contradicts "...but he wasn't convicted of anything."
    I apologise for my faux pas...
    Bundy is a racist asshole...That is my own personal conviction, shared with millions of other Americans.
    The federal courts have not sentenced Bundy but have found him responsible for the debt he owes the government and ordered him to pay up. Bundy has not been convicted of being a racist asshole in the courts, however most sensible Americans have determined that he is a racist asshole.
    Better?
    Word usage is important...I fell down on the job, sorry...

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