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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Then what did you mean by this? You basically said no one had the right to say that they wanted someone to be fired. Which means you want it to be illegal. Words dude, they have meaning.
    Yes I said you libs in your fondest dreams would like to make racism illegal but as of now it is not and I never said it was.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Yes I said you libs in your fondest dreams would like to make racism illegal but as of now it is not and I never said it was.
    I wouldn't want to make racism illegal. That would be an affront to the first amendment which I fully support. Stop debating shadows and start debating people.

    And yes, if you don't want people to be able to demand that people be fired then you would be limiting their speech. That is what you said and that is what you want. Which would limit the first amendment.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I wouldn't want to make racism illegal. That would be an affront to the first amendment which I fully support. Stop debating shadows and start debating people.

    And yes, if you don't want people to be able to demand that people be fired then you would be limiting their speech. That is what you said and that is what you want. Which would limit the first amendment.
    You say that but then you demand people be punished for being racist which for all intents and purposes makes racism illegal. You are engaging in a modern day lynching.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and then they wonder why blacks vote for the other party in disproportionate numbers
    that was due more to handouts than anything else



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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    All this media blitz on Bundy and The basketball guy has me wondering if we now have thought police in this country. I'm not racist myself but I don't see what the big deal is if you are. We have laws to protect people from racism so your opinion should be a right and you should not be punished for what you believe. IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.
    You have a right to be a racist.

    You don't have a right to not have your racists views, actions, statements, or stances be free of negative reactions from others.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You say that but then you demand people be punished for being racist which for all intents and purposes makes racism illegal. You are engaging in a modern day lynching.
    No it doesn't.

    He's not going to jail, and he's not being fined by the government. That is what freedom of speech means; it does not mean that you can say things and not be free from the consequences of your speech. That being, other people using their power of speech to publicly disagree with you, to publicly boycott you and your business's, to publicly call for your firing, etc, etc.

    This is NOTHING like a lynching. A lynching would be people rounding up and hanging him from a tree, or at the very lest murdering him. Your arguments are ridiculous and don't deal in any kind of reality.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You say that but then you demand people be punished for being racist which for all intents and purposes makes racism illegal.
    Is she demanding people be punished by the government or by society?

    If it's by the government, you have a point.

    If it's by society in general, you're amazingly off base. "Illegal" speaks to LAW.

    Someone saying a racist comment and being thrown in jail is making racist comments "Illegal"

    Someone saying a racist comment and having businesses and consumers refusing to do business with him anymore is not making racist comments "Illegal". Rather, it's other people engaging in their right to speech and their right to assembly in response to the other persons enagement in their right to speech.

    Condemning people who call for someone to be fired for saying a racist thing is NO DIFFERENT than calling for someone to be fired for a racist thing. In both instances, it's someone using their speech to reflect negatively upon the speech of another person.

    Neither is unconsitutional, and neither are making something "illegal".

    Not even in "Intents and purposes"...unless we've suddenly made public displeasure over something able to cause someone to become incarcerated and become a felon.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    I agree with the OP, however, there are consequences for your racism. If you own a predominately black business and say those things, there will be consequences. They SHOULD be free market consequences, not policed in any way (like the NBA is doing). Let the people who buy the product decide. This PC police we have now is very scary because the more they are allowed to enforce, the more liberties get eroded. Cliven Bundy shouldn't even have mentioned blacks as it had nothing to do with his plight against the BLM. This was stupidity on his part and now he has less support because of it. No one wants to associate themselves with racism and it does have consequences. Policing racism is like trying to police poverty. Useless. People don't change overnight. If people were more open an honest in their feelings, maybe there wouldn't be this pent up aggression toward race anymore. Somehow it just never seems to change. We are a society of people with problems. White guilt/shame and black resentment will probably never change in my lifetime.

    The story of Don Imus comes to mind when I think about fake outrage on racism. "Nappy headed hos" got Imus fired. So where is Imus now? Back on the radio. Where is the continued pressure to have him still off-air? Why no outcry and demands for his job when he got rehired? Just goes to show you racism claims have a shelf life. Give it some time and no one even cares to remember. Just more fake outrage dto divide and conquer. As long as people fight among themselves, we can't point the finger at the real problems to society.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Precisely the opposite. His being banned is a sign of a repressive society. What's next, burn books that offend you?
    This is not equivalent to burning books, this would be more like organizing a boycott of a bookstore that sells smut. Perfectly ok.

    Burning books would be more like killing the guy, not ok.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This is not equivalent to burning books, this would be more like organizing a boycott of a bookstore that sells smut. Perfectly ok.

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    just look what it did to my corn.

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