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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Wrong. At the risk of repeating myself...
    That boat sailed a long time ago. So rather than repeat yourself for the infinityith time, just tell us where it's against the law to demand someone's resignation/firing. I already have the Constitution to tell me it's legal, you show me where it's illegal.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    People have a right to be racist, if they break no laws. Proper responses to that racism is also protected.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You have to rember the dix chicks also dissed their fans and people like me just decided not to buy their music. We did not however demand their record company drop them.

    You demanded that the radio drop them, and it did.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    The 1st Amendment allows you the right to hold whatever beliefs and express them however you choose as long as you are not inciting violence. So yes, you have the right to be a racist. However, the law does not allow you to be immune from the consequences of your speech.
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    Is being racist a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The 1st Amendment allows you the right to hold whatever beliefs and express them however you choose as long as you are not inciting violence. So yes, you have the right to be a racist. However, the law does not allow you to be immune from the consequences of your speech.
    I would go further and say that one of the purposes of the first amendment is expressly allow what happened to that basketball dude.

    Him being banned is the sign of a healthy society in terms of free speech.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Bundy's problem and none of your business
    That would actually be Sterling's and the NBA's problem. I didn't "demand" that the NBA do anything to Sterling, but I do think they were right in what they did to save their brand in the black community.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The two examples in the OP are not any ones employee but I still disagree. You should not be fired for having different beliefs than your employer.
    If it affects their business, then....for example, if you run a kosher deli and it gets out that one of your employees is a rabid anti-semite....


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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Racism is directly resultant of Free Thought. There is, despite the left's constant attempts, no way to actually control someones thoughts. Freedom of Thought is a naturally occurring "Right" of all people.

    Yes, I am aware the brainwashing can limit or restrict a persons "freedom of thought" but even then, it can only limit it and that limit can be removed. I am also aware that acts of racism fall under "Freedom of Expression" and that the freedom to express oneself can be restricted.

    But, when you choose to support or act to suppress someone else's "freedom of expression" because you disagree with them, you leave it open for others, who might disagree with you, to do the same thing to you.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The two examples in the OP are not any ones employee but I still disagree. You should not be fired for having different beliefs than your employer.
    It's notthat you have different beliefs. It's that you go blabbing about them. Let's say you believed it was okay to molest children. As long as you aren't doing it you aren't breaking any law. But if you start running your mouth about it, the employer can absolutely fire you.

    You have the right to your opinion. You have the right to voice it. But the employer can tell you that you can't in his property or in his employ. Now you can go blabbering about it under his employ but he has the right to terminate said employment. Are you saying he shouldn't? Are you saying that if a guy that works in an R&B record store that has a customer base of 75% black people can go on about how much he hates black people and can't wait for the khan really this evening? And if the employer islosing business he is just stuck with that guy?

    I think an employer has the right to fire you.

    Other wise I answered your question. Yes you have the right to be racist. Nobody locks up the Klan or the black Panthers that ought to be enough.
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    re: Is being racist a right?[W:343]

    I didn't know how to respond to the question of the thread. I don't think anyone has a right to be racist, yet so many Americans believe that certain people have every right to be racist. These Americans who believe in selective racism go so far as to say, for example, African-Americans can't be racist, since their ancestors were victims of racism...

    My local newspaper has a daily section from USA today and I saw this quote in said USA Today from Al Sharpton saying something like, in my rephrase, racism should be revealed and punished at any turn.
    My thought is: really, does the USA Today realize Sharpton is a racist? Is the USA Today's rational for using Sharpton's quote because a racist would sure know another racist? Like Capone would sure know Bonnie and Clyde?

    And how can the African-American society evolve... grow.. prosper.. when these double standards are institutionalized in law?
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