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    Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    Currently, he US gives over 1 billion dollars a year to Egypt. However, Egypt has recently engaged in some very big human rights violations. For example it just sentenced 683 members of the Muslim Brotherhood to death in a mass trial.

    Egypt sentences 683 to death in another mass trial - Middle East news - Boston.com

    The Muslim Brotherhood’s spiritual leader and more than 680 other people were sentenced to death Monday stemming from last year’s post-coup violence in the latest mass trial that was denounced in the West and by human rights groups as contrary to the rule of law.
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    Should the US stop giving aid to Egypt?

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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    We should stop military aid to *EVERYONE*. If you can't afford to fight your own wars and pay your own way, screw you.
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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Currently, he US gives over 1 billion dollars a year to Egypt. However, Egypt has recently engaged in some very big human rights violations. For example it just sentenced 683 members of the Muslim Brotherhood to death in a mass trial.

    Egypt sentences 683 to death in another mass trial - Middle East news - Boston.com



    Should the US stop giving aid to Egypt?
    If Egypt puts 683 Muslim Brotherhood members to death, I think Egypt should get a bonus.

    But I believe that Egypt will soon be cozying up to Russia since Russia is now the big boy in the Middle East.

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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Currently, he US gives over 1 billion dollars a year to Egypt. However, Egypt has recently engaged in some very big human rights violations. For example it just sentenced 683 members of the Muslim Brotherhood to death in a mass trial.

    Egypt sentences 683 to death in another mass trial - Middle East news - Boston.com



    Should the US stop giving aid to Egypt?
    We should stop all foreign aid.
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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    I'm trying to find some sympathy for the human rights violations and death sentences given to those 683 members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    The entire Middle East is little more than a clusterf#ck and a waste of time and resources. They seem to hate us and yet want our help in doing so.

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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    The use of foreign aid, whether military or not, used in order to have nations cooperate (e.g. have Egypt make nice with Israel) must be balanced with the cost of not doing so. Gov't spending programs, once started, are not easily stopped.

    If "human rights" violations were the measure of "good" nations then the U.S. is very hypocritical, as we placed sanctions on South Africa, for not letting blacks vote and have full rights, yet treat China and Saudi Arabia (valued trading partners) as friends, where nobody can vote and human rights are all but nonexistent.

    Once you take carrots "off the table" then you are left with only sticks (playing world policeman?) as negotiating tools. So long as this is the new foreign policy that you wish for, and are willing to accept the outcome, then give it a try.
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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    The Muslim Brotherhood candidates were legitimately elected. Although somewhat conservative-fundamentalist, they were considered a moderating influence compared to other Islamists in Egypt at the time. They did not commit terrorism or oppress their opposition as much as the military government is now. They were not removed from office through a legitimate process, the military overthrew the government and is now persecuting the previous election winners. Overthrowing a legitimate government and persecuting the Brotherhood with a military coup is not going to stop fundamentalist Islamists, instead they will be more likely to use means other than the electoral process next time.

    The current government should face some sanctions and/or other pressure to stop the oppression of the Brotherhood. However, much of the reason for the high levels of aid from the USA is because Egypt has been somewhat supportive and protective of Israel. As long as they continue to do that, there will be little interest or chance that Egypt's aid will be cut significantly.

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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    Egypt has recently engaged in some very big human rights violations. For example it just sentenced 683 members of the Muslim Brotherhood to death in a mass trial.
    Some call that injustice.

    i call it return on investment.

    I do think we should supply Egypt with plenty of pork rinds though.

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    Re: Should the US Stop Military Aid to Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I'm trying to find some sympathy for the human rights violations and death sentences given to those 683 members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Give me a moment...................

    Nope. Ain't happening.

    I got nothing.............
    What did the Muslim Brotherhood do to deserve murder?

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