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Do people leave political notes on your car?

Do people leave you notes

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Political bumper stickers are like political Facebook posts.

It's a bad idea 99% of the time. At least you dont have to sit in traffic for 30 minutes staring at someone else's opinion succinctly explained by mis citations of famous dudes.
 
Ben K. said:
Political bumper stickers are like political Facebook posts.

It's a bad idea 99% of the time. At least you dont have to sit in traffic for 30 minutes staring at someone else's opinion succinctly explained by mis citations of famous dudes.
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"Never believe everything that you read on a bumper sticker or on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln
 
disneydude said:
Seriously dude....I have a hard time seeing how leaving a note on someone's car, that causes ZERO damage to the vehicle displays any "lack of respect" for property. Seems to me that what you are REALLY advocating for a shouting an opinion to the world and not having to live with the consequences. Typical of the right-wing view.....which is much more of a problem than leaving a note on a car that causes zero damage, i.e., the lack of accepting responsibility for one's actions and expecting to be free of consequences when "exercising free speech rights"....
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You, and those like you, are the 'consequences' we all have to live with, huh? Are you ready for the consequences of messing with someone elses property?
 
Grant said:
You, and those like you, are the 'consequences' we all have to live with, huh? Are you ready for the consequences of messing with someone elses property?
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Absolutely. I accept the responsibilities for my actions, if someone gets emotionally upset because I leave a not on their car, I'm ready to deal with their insecurities and emotional problems....absolutely.
 
disneydude said:
Seriously dude....I have a hard time seeing how leaving a note on someone's car, that causes ZERO damage to the vehicle displays any "lack of respect" for property. Seems to me that what you are REALLY advocating for a shouting an opinion to the world and not having to live with the consequences. Typical of the right-wing view.....which is much more of a problem than leaving a note on a car that causes zero damage, i.e., the lack of accepting responsibility for one's actions and expecting to be free of consequences when "exercising free speech rights"....
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right wing view?.........this is imbecilic

it is not exactly the leaving a note that is the problem, it is the idea, because someone does something that makes you angry, this somehow gives you a right to respond crossing into his rights. which i am currently aruging in anther thread, where people think they have a right to act against a person, because he offended them, ...while own his own property.

i have a right to free speech .....as you do also,......but you don't have free speech using a person's car as your vehicle of communication of anyone property for that purpose.

your saying "it causes zero damage"...you don't see hows its a lack of respect........i don't think you would like anyone using your property, as a vehicle for something negative against you.

you would find if people respected the most basic of all property, a large percentage of problems in america would disappear


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Wiseone said:
There's not a difference.
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Well, I would assume that the Tea Party doesn't leave jars of their own urine laying around, but otherwise, you're right, they're both obnoxious asshats.
 
Wiseone said:
There's not a difference.
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Really? Has there been any rape cases at the Tea Party protests? Any fires lit, windows smashed, property damaged, people injured, drug OD's?

Maybe you just haven't been watching very closely.
 
ernst barkmann said:
right wing view?.........this is imbecilic

it is not exactly the leaving a note that is the problem, it is the idea, because someone does something that makes you angry, this somehow gives you a right to respond crossing into his rights. which i am currently aruging in anther thread, where people think they have a right to act against a person, because he offended them, ...while own his own property.

i have a right to free speech .....as you do also,......but you don't have free speech using a person's car as your vehicle of communication of anyone property for that purpose.

your saying "it causes zero damage"...you don't see hows its a lack of respect........i don't think you would like anyone using your property, as a vehicle for something negative against you.

you would find if people respected the most basic of all property, a large percentage of problems in america would disappear


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There is no "crossing into his rights"....you seem to think that someone expressing a view counter to your own is somehow infringing on your right to express your opinion, you raised that argument previously....the reality is I am not "using" someones vehicle to express my opinion, I am leaving a note on their car. That's hardly "infringing" on their property rights. I would agree if it somehow caused irreparable harm, but it doesn't. As I indicated before, I have no problem at all with someone leaving a note on my car commenting on my bumper stickers (I don't currently,however, have any....but I have in the past)....in fact, I expect it, and actually kind of invite it with the type of political statements that I choose to make. I don't have an emotional breakdown because someone exercises their first amendment right to respond to it. I'm stable enough mentally to recognize that when I put the bumper sticker on, I might get a reaction from someone. If I wasn't emotionally secure enough to deal with it....I wouldn't put it on my car in the first place.
 
On the left coast on the West Side of LA or in San Francisco or Marin County, Ca. if you have a political bumper sticker supporting a GOP candidate, liberals are notorious leaving a political note on your car, usually by keying the car.
 
Grant said:
Really? Has there been any rape cases at the Tea Party protests? Any fires lit, windows smashed, property damaged, people injured, drug OD's?

Maybe you just haven't been watching very closely.
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I don't give much attention to what the Tea Party or OWS is up to.
 
beefheart said:
I don't have bumperstickers, I think they cheapen any argument the driver may have, and they make people look like cranks and nutters.

I'm driving, I don't give a rat's a%% about someone's politics, nor do I want them paraded in front of me.
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Some bumper stickers are really offensive too... like the ones that curse you out, talk about their kids having Ds and beating up other kids, or just seem like wise ass slogans and sometimes directed at cops. I am sure they are more likely to be fined and pulled over by the cops. It might be funny, but it's not worth looking like a dumb ass. I don't like bumper stickers. I like my car too much to put stickers on it.
 
disneydude said:
There is no "crossing into his rights"....you seem to think that someone expressing a view counter to your own is somehow infringing on your right to express your opinion, you raised that argument previously....the reality is I am not "using" someones vehicle to express my opinion, I am leaving a note on their car. That's hardly "infringing" on their property rights. I would agree if it somehow caused irreparable harm, but it doesn't. As I indicated before, I have no problem at all with someone leaving a note on my car commenting on my bumper stickers (I don't currently,however, have any....but I have in the past)....in fact, I expect it, and actually kind of invite it with the type of political statements that I choose to make. I don't have an emotional breakdown because someone exercises their first amendment right to respond to it. I'm stable enough mentally to recognize that when I put the bumper sticker on, I might get a reaction from someone. If I wasn't emotionally secure enough to deal with it....I wouldn't put it on my car in the first place.
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what was the whole post having to deal with, a person getting angry, because someone had stickers on there car, ..ok, why does a person feel they should go over and put notes, on another persons property?

why...because they are pissed, and you can see by the letter shows that.....

the person thinks ,hey i am mad, therefore i will seek to speak my mind, by putting something on the car.......

if it is a doctor, i cannot believe a person with that much education, is so low on the intelligence scale to bother writing a note, wasting their time an effort and using foul language to express a point.

i usually stay about in the Constitution section of this forum, however when i enter outside that area, and discuss other ideas, after and few posts back and forth, i end up with ridiculous post such as .....name calling in the exchange...which makes me wonder, how old people are on this forum, and how much education did they receive, and what did their parents teach them as a child. .......
 
ernst barkmann said:
what was the whole post having to deal with, a person getting angry, because someone had stickers on there car, ..ok, why does a person feel they should go over and put notes, on another persons property?

why...because they are pissed, and you can see by the letter shows that.....

the person thinks ,hey i am mad, therefore i will seek to speak my mind, by putting something on the car.......

if it is a doctor, i cannot believe a person with that much education, is so low on the intelligence scale to bother writing a note, wasting their time an effort and using foul language to express a point.

i usually stay about in the Constitution section of this forum, however when i enter outside that area, and discuss other ideas, after and few posts back and forth, i end up with ridiculous post such as .....name calling in the exchange...which makes me wonder, how old people are on this forum, and how much education did they receive, and what did their parents teach them as a child. .......
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Why does the free exercise of speech bother you so greatly? Why are you bothered so much by someone leaving a note? Granted, I think the note referenced in the OP was kind of silly and displayed a childishness in itself...but I don't have an issue with someone responding to someone elses political speech by leaving a note. I believe in the free exchange of ideas.
 
votemout said:
Democrats and ONLY Democrats Gave You Obamacare Bumper Sticker | PatriotDepot.com

This is the only bumper sticker one needs on their car.

We need to remind every just how bad this law really is.
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Except that its not really true...but hey...if you want to put it on your car....more power to you.

The reality is that the healthcare reform that Obama originally proposed was very different from what the ACA is today. The reality is that Republicans dug in their heels and wouldn't even discuss it. As a compromise, Obama ditched the public option and replaced it with the Republican idea drawn from the Heritage Foundation of the Insurance Mandate. This is the part of the ACA that most people dislike the most. Did Republicans vote for the new (unimproved version)? No, but it was enough to get the bluedog democrats that were afraid of their own tails to vote for the ACA. So the reality it, Republicans are very much responsible for the version of the ACA that we got because it was a direct result of their refusal to even consider the public option and was in large part a Republican idea that they had supported in the past, offered as a compromise to seek their support.

But hey....like I said, if a mischaracterized one - liner fits you better......more power to ya.
 
disneydude said:
Why does the free exercise of speech bother you so greatly? Why are you bothered so much by someone leaving a note? Granted, I think the note referenced in the OP was kind of silly and displayed a childishness in itself...but I don't have an issue with someone responding to someone elses political speech by leaving a note. I believe in the free exchange of ideas.
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i am bothered because on the the stupidity of people believing that they are empowered to exercise a right or any right ...........on something not theirs.

this was not a free exchange of ideas, person one excised it thru his vehicle without touching or entering property, the other sought exercise to get even...... thru using of another person's property.

its is probability a good thing the owner was not there, someone dumb enough to write the letter with such content, who have probability taken on the owner in more then just words.

these things happen when people are unable to check their emotions ..keeping them under control.
 
disneydude said:
Except that its not really true...but hey...if you want to put it on your car....more power to you.

The reality is that the healthcare reform that Obama originally proposed was very different from what the ACA is today. The reality is that Republicans dug in their heels and wouldn't even discuss it. As a compromise, Obama ditched the public option and replaced it with the Republican idea drawn from the Heritage Foundation of the Insurance Mandate. This is the part of the ACA that most people dislike the most. Did Republicans vote for the new (unimproved version)? No, but it was enough to get the bluedog democrats that were afraid of their own tails to vote for the ACA. So the reality it, Republicans are very much responsible for the version of the ACA that we got because it was a direct result of their refusal to even consider the public option and was in large part a Republican idea that they had supported in the past, offered as a compromise to seek their support.

But hey....like I said, if a mischaracterized one - liner fits you better......more power to ya.
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LOL right, not voting for the law means they voted yes for it.:screwy

Unbelievable
 
ernst barkmann said:
i am bothered because on the the stupidity of people believing that they are empowered to exercise a right or any right ...........on something not theirs.

this was not a free exchange of ideas, person one excised it thru his vehicle without touching or entering property, the other sought exercise to get even...... thru using of another person's property.

its is probability a good thing the owner was not there, someone dumb enough to write the letter with such content, who have probability taken on the owner in more then just words.

these things happen when people are unable to check their emotions ..keeping them under control.
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Seriously? Do you feel the same anger and rage when people leave a phone book on your front door stoop or a pizza menu on your mailbox? Seems like the people with the problem are the people who get emotionally outraged over a free exchange of ideas or by having their ideas or beliefs challenged.
 
votemout said:
LOL right, not voting for the law means they voted yes for it.:screwy

Unbelievable
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Not what I said.....your contention...or the contention of the one-line bumper sticker is that Republicans have no responsibility for how the ACA ended up. That is factually incorrect, but like I said...if you feel more comfortable with a mischaracterized one-liner, more power to ya.
 
disneydude said:
Seriously? Do you feel the same anger and rage when people leave a phone book on your front door stoop or a pizza menu on your mailbox? Seems like the people with the problem are the people who get emotionally outraged over a free exchange of ideas or by having their ideas or beliefs challenged.
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no but i also know the phone book is not left as an negative message for me.

if you had a democrat candidate sign in your yard, and i didn't like it, does that empower me to write you notes, which show my displeasure with your chose, and leave them stuck on your front door?
 
disneydude said:
Not what I said.....your contention...or the contention of the one-line bumper sticker is that Republicans have no responsibility for how the ACA ended up. That is factually incorrect, but like I said...if you feel more comfortable with a mischaracterized one-liner, more power to ya.
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well it is proving to be a disaster of a law, guess that is the repukes fault also huh?
 
votemout said:
LOL right, not voting for the law means they voted yes for it.:screwy

Unbelievable
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Not what he said, but I didn't really expect anything more than a strawman from you.
 
cpgrad08 said:
So I work as an full time optician as I go to school for my BA. I have a some political bumper stickers on my car. At least once a week I have some leaving a noteor my car being keyed up because they disagree with me. So I was wondering does this happen to anyone else on the forum and if so what do you do. Attach below are pictures of my bumper stickers and the note on my car from today.
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I've almost always found that those with a penchant for making public 'statements', are those deserving of such animosity.
 
Kobie said:
Not what he said, but I didn't really expect anything more than a strawman from you.
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So now the democraps dont want the credit for the law they passed?
Huh i wonder why.
 
ernst barkmann said:
no but i also know the phone book is not left as an negative message for me.

if you had a democrat candidate sign in your yard, and i didn't like it, does that empower me to write you notes, which show my displeasure with your chose, and leave them stuck on your front door?
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Certainly....wouldn't bother me at all. As long as you don't deface or destroy the yard sign, I'm emotionally secure enough to deal with and accept the free exchange of ideas. Now, if it were a death threat, that would be a different story. See....I accept the reality that by taking a political position, there may be others who disagree with me. I'm ok with that.
 
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