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Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 42.9%
  • No

    Votes: 32 57.1%

  • Total voters
    56
I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link
Mission Statement | Women for Men

So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?

There are extremists on just about any issue. So perhaps, there are "some" women out there waging a war. But is the "United States" waging a war on masculinity. It depends. How do you define masculinity? If you think that John Wayne, image of a man defines masculinity then you will probably find a war. I look at that and see an evolution. So, how do you define it?
 
What does that have to do with anything? That's a medical treatment and has nothing to do with anything being talked about. In any event, considering that doctors have stopped giving the stuff out like they did some time ago with female hormones due to health concerns, the industry isn't probably growing like it did not that long ago. Notice how the commercials have stopped? There is a reason for that.

I was being tongue-in-cheek. The commercials certainly haven't stopped though.
 
Nope, and you have no idea what's it's like to be a white woman...I've experienced racist attitudes against me for being white I've never physically witnessed any racism towards others. I recognize that it exists but I can never condone social programs that trample on the rights of others in order to make up for past and current racial discrimination. You don't fight discrimination with more discrimination and right now a lot of people seem to be okay with that and it's the white man getting the short end of the stick.

Sorry but as a white man I don't see it. As a white man I get to earn more money than any other demographic, I am over represented by other white men at every level of government, and I am over represented in the leadership of the vast majority of companies and organizations.

If you have experienced racist attitudes towards yourself, but never witnessed it towards others, then frankly it sounds to me like you might be too self absorbed to see it.
 
Unfortunately, everything masculine is being made synonymous with misogynistic, overly macho and ignorant.

The end was in sight when the term "metrosexual" was coined. Limp wrist sissy boys in skinny jeans almost asexual are the norm in many places.
 
The war on men is being conducted by the same folks who are conducting the war on Christians.

Damn these false flag operations!
 
The end was in sight when the term "metrosexual" was coined. Limp wrist sissy boys in skinny jeans almost asexual are the norm in many places.

That term, I believe, has been around since the 90's. TV Shows like Seinfield and Friends were tackling many of today's hot button issues way back. I'm not against anyone's preferences or orientation, though I'm not really for them either. I'm not interested in having anything pushed in my face too much and a lot of the gender neutral stuff has me confused. I'm a 'live and let live type', but I don't understand certain fast paced, cultural shifts in today's world. The trends and technology are just going by quicker than I care to keep up.

For example, I live in an apartment complex (fairly nice) that was about 80% hetero couples and singles, 20 years ago. Now there's only about 30% or less that are hetero couples, with threesomes of mixed sex, SS room mates, older singles- trans, gay, bi and straight, gangs of foreigners or too many occupants in a one bedroom. I have a nosy neighbor that informs me of all the happenings and its like a free for all from Jerry Springer. I've seen more paramedics and cops the last couple years than I saw in my whole life before, from all the drama. I'd hate to see what goes on in the lower rent areas, geez. :shock:
 
Yes, specifically from the government with programs set in place that very specifically discriminate against them in order to try to help combat discrimination in the past of minorities and possible present day discrimination.

The flaw in your position is that it assumes that without such programs there would be a pure meritocracy. If that was so I would agree with you. But that simply is not the case. The problem is that because of such past and present discrimination, there is a power structure in place that is quite frankly dominated by white males, some of whom that discriminate based on race.
 
Nope, and you have no idea what's it's like to be a white woman...I've experienced racist attitudes against me for being white I've never physically witnessed any racism towards others. I recognize that it exists but I can never condone social programs that trample on the rights of others in order to make up for past and current racial discrimination. You don't fight discrimination with more discrimination and right now a lot of people seem to be okay with that and it's the white man getting the short end of the stick.

First of all, I disagree in the strongest terms that in general, white men are getting the short end of the stick relative to black men. The statistics simply don't show that.

Next of all, anyone who has tried to be successful in corporate America knows that it's not only what you know, but who you know. Therefore people try to network as much as possible to succeed. What I'm saying is that because of past discrimination, the power structure is biased towards white males. Therefore they are more likely to be CEOs and have other such positions of power that make it more likely that a white male will be successful in corporate America. Therefore in cases where there may be a lack of minorities in certain positions, if you have two candidates for the position that are both capable of doing the job, preference should be given to the minority applicant. I don't think that really tramples on anyone's rights, unless you put a person who is not qualified in a position, simply because that person is black, when you could have chosen a white person that was actually qualified. In that case, that is certainly unjust.
 
There are extremists on just about any issue. So perhaps, there are "some" women out there waging a war. But is the "United States" waging a war on masculinity. It depends. How do you define masculinity? If you think that John Wayne, image of a man defines masculinity then you will probably find a war. I look at that and see an evolution. So, how do you define it?

It's like pornography, I know it when I see it. :2razz:
 
How many of you guys bitching about a war on men fish or hunt? How many of you are fit and strong? How many of you can crank out 10 or more pull-ups and 50 or more push-ups in a set? How many of you work on your own vehicles? How many of you can throw a pack on and spend a week in the wilderness backcountry on foot by yourself?

If you can't do these things then you need to STFU about a supposed "War on Men" because you have waved the white flag of surrender long ago.
 
Nope, and you have no idea what's it's like to be a white woman...I've experienced racist attitudes against me for being white I've never physically witnessed any racism towards others. I recognize that it exists but I can never condone social programs that trample on the rights of others in order to make up for past and current racial discrimination. You don't fight discrimination with more discrimination and right now a lot of people seem to be okay with that and it's the white man getting the short end of the stick.

Oh please. The white male is still in the safest condition by far. The fact that all levels of government have a few programs here or there which provide specific benefit to minorities should not prevent you from considering how relatively untouched the white male is.
 
Being a fem man has become the in thing and macho types are mocked and ridiculed.

We're asked to become more intellectualized, which has brought attention toward those who did not and will not fit into the "macho" types. Don't worry though, feminists are still often quite disturbed by the world view and attitude of those men.
 
Obviously yes, hence the rise of a "bro" culture which in reality is juvenility. Masculinity is marked by gentlemanliness, which is ridiculed as much as possible these days.
 
We're asked to become more intellectualized, which has brought attention toward those who did not and will not fit into the "macho" types. Don't worry though, feminists are still often quite disturbed by the world view and attitude of those men.

More emotionalized I would say.
 
How many of you guys bitching about a war on men fish or hunt? How many of you are fit and strong? How many of you can crank out 10 or more pull-ups and 50 or more push-ups in a set? How many of you work on your own vehicles? How many of you can throw a pack on and spend a week in the wilderness backcountry on foot by yourself?

If you can't do these things then you need to STFU about a supposed "War on Men" because you have waved the white flag of surrender long ago.

As I have grown older, I see masculinity differently. To me masculinity is the knowing what is right, doing what is right, and standing up for what is right, no matter what difficulties that might entail, even political, financial, physical or mental harm,or death. To the degree one does these things one is masculine. Too often what I see is that people pass for strong, but they either don't know what is right or are afraid to stand up for it when it means they might lose something personally.
 
I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

Mission Statement | Women for Men



So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?

Against masculinity? I'm not 100% sure about that. There are, however, certain laws and situations which are firmly set up against men, those mentioned in the article for instance. The laws and courts should be blind to sex.
 
Against masculinity? I'm not 100% sure about that. There are, however, certain laws and situations which are firmly set up against men, those mentioned in the article for instance. The laws and courts should be blind to sex.

Let me ask something very specific then. Do you see the attempts by some feminists to create a genderless world as an attack on men?
 
Any man who feels like he's being treated unfairly because of his gender might be confused about either the treatment or the gender.
Or both.
 
Let me ask something very specific then. Do you see the attempts by some feminists to create a genderless world as an attack on men?

Not just an attack on men, though that's probably how it's intended. It is really an attack on humanity as a whole; by way of the divine distinction between male and female, and the role that this distinction serves in the formation of marriage and family and society.
 
Let me ask something very specific then. Do you see the attempts by some feminists to create a genderless world as an attack on men?

No. I see law that is set up to automatically blame the male as an attack on men.
 
Oh there is. Big time.

We're five years away from the straight white male getting pelted with rotten fruit when walking in public.

Well....certainly you...and probably won't take five years. ;)
 
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