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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
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    Are you hinting that the situation is not the same in the south?

    If not, English please?
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I disagree. I think that effort and integrity are functions of being situated such that one can be satisfied in the fulfillment of ones reasonable desires.
    This is plainly untrue. Effort and integrity don't presuppose positivity, whether assumed in advance or not.

    For instance, a man who is hungry is much more likely to steal than one who is well fed. I think there have been efforts by some intellectuals that have resulted in men and women suppressing feelings that have led to neurotic behavior and is destroying the social fabric of society. Although in the ultimate scheme, things do level out. But that does not mean that one should not endeavor to correct localized disturbances.
    These are givens. Who suggests otherwise?

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Sorry but as a white man I don't see it. As a white man I get to earn more money than any other demographic, I am over represented by other white men at every level of government, and I am over represented in the leadership of the vast majority of companies and organizations.

    If you have experienced racist attitudes towards yourself, but never witnessed it towards others, then frankly it sounds to me like you might be too self absorbed to see it.
    I could be self absorbed or I could just be a young person who lives in an extremely liberal area where there is no visible racism. You do realize that it's not all that rampant in many areas of US but nice of you to judge me anyways.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The flaw in your position is that it assumes that without such programs there would be a pure meritocracy. If that was so I would agree with you. But that simply is not the case. The problem is that because of such past and present discrimination, there is a power structure in place that is quite frankly dominated by white males, some of whom that discriminate based on race.
    I don't assume that there would be a pure meritocracy I just don't condone fixing something by using active discrimination against others.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Oh please. The white male is still in the safest condition by far. The fact that all levels of government have a few programs here or there which provide specific benefit to minorities should not prevent you from considering how relatively untouched the white male is.
    I don't have a problem with providing benefits to others I have a problem when those benefits specifically discriminate against someone else in the process. The racial attitude of some of you towards white men is appalling, just because there are a lot of white men in power positions doesn't make it okay to discriminate against those who are not, you are condoning something that if done towards any minority you would stand vehemently against.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    I don't have a problem with providing benefits to others I have a problem when those benefits specifically discriminate against someone else in the process. The racial attitude of some of you towards white men is appalling, just because there are a lot of white men in power positions doesn't make it okay to discriminate against those who are not, you are condoning something that if done towards any minority you would stand vehemently against.
    I am a white man. I don't hold pity toward our kind, nor do I have animosity toward my own kind. I'm sorry, I just don't identify whatsoever with this stance.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    I could be self absorbed or I could just be a young person who lives in an extremely liberal area where there is no visible racism. You do realize that it's not all that rampant in many areas of US but nice of you to judge me anyways.
    I don't mean to judge you, but you also should realize that most racism and bigotry is not visible anymore.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I am a white man. I don't hold pity toward our kind, nor do I have animosity toward my own kind. I'm sorry, I just don't identify whatsoever with this stance.
    There are a lot of white men who feel the same way as you. I'm not saying you should hold pity towards anyone I'm just saying I believe it wrong to discriminate against anyone in an attempt to stop potential discrimination against someone else.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

    Mission Statement | Women for Men

    So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?
    Well there was that "metrosexual" thing that rolled through town about ten years ago, but that seems to have blown over more or less.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Oh look, a bunch of self proclaimed manly men blubbering about how persecuted they are. I always find it hilarious that the same insecure losers who spout crap about how stoic and tough men are supposed to be have the biggest victim complex.

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