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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link
    Mission Statement | Women for Men

    So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?
    There are extremists on just about any issue. So perhaps, there are "some" women out there waging a war. But is the "United States" waging a war on masculinity. It depends. How do you define masculinity? If you think that John Wayne, image of a man defines masculinity then you will probably find a war. I look at that and see an evolution. So, how do you define it?
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What does that have to do with anything? That's a medical treatment and has nothing to do with anything being talked about. In any event, considering that doctors have stopped giving the stuff out like they did some time ago with female hormones due to health concerns, the industry isn't probably growing like it did not that long ago. Notice how the commercials have stopped? There is a reason for that.
    I was being tongue-in-cheek. The commercials certainly haven't stopped though.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    Nope, and you have no idea what's it's like to be a white woman...I've experienced racist attitudes against me for being white I've never physically witnessed any racism towards others. I recognize that it exists but I can never condone social programs that trample on the rights of others in order to make up for past and current racial discrimination. You don't fight discrimination with more discrimination and right now a lot of people seem to be okay with that and it's the white man getting the short end of the stick.
    Sorry but as a white man I don't see it. As a white man I get to earn more money than any other demographic, I am over represented by other white men at every level of government, and I am over represented in the leadership of the vast majority of companies and organizations.

    If you have experienced racist attitudes towards yourself, but never witnessed it towards others, then frankly it sounds to me like you might be too self absorbed to see it.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    How did the men of USA allowed this to happen?
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Unfortunately, everything masculine is being made synonymous with misogynistic, overly macho and ignorant.
    The end was in sight when the term "metrosexual" was coined. Limp wrist sissy boys in skinny jeans almost asexual are the norm in many places.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Being a fem man has become the in thing and macho types are mocked and ridiculed.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    The war on men is being conducted by the same folks who are conducting the war on Christians.

    Damn these false flag operations!
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The end was in sight when the term "metrosexual" was coined. Limp wrist sissy boys in skinny jeans almost asexual are the norm in many places.
    That term, I believe, has been around since the 90's. TV Shows like Seinfield and Friends were tackling many of today's hot button issues way back. I'm not against anyone's preferences or orientation, though I'm not really for them either. I'm not interested in having anything pushed in my face too much and a lot of the gender neutral stuff has me confused. I'm a 'live and let live type', but I don't understand certain fast paced, cultural shifts in today's world. The trends and technology are just going by quicker than I care to keep up.

    For example, I live in an apartment complex (fairly nice) that was about 80% hetero couples and singles, 20 years ago. Now there's only about 30% or less that are hetero couples, with threesomes of mixed sex, SS room mates, older singles- trans, gay, bi and straight, gangs of foreigners or too many occupants in a one bedroom. I have a nosy neighbor that informs me of all the happenings and its like a free for all from Jerry Springer. I've seen more paramedics and cops the last couple years than I saw in my whole life before, from all the drama. I'd hate to see what goes on in the lower rent areas, geez.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    Yes, specifically from the government with programs set in place that very specifically discriminate against them in order to try to help combat discrimination in the past of minorities and possible present day discrimination.
    The flaw in your position is that it assumes that without such programs there would be a pure meritocracy. If that was so I would agree with you. But that simply is not the case. The problem is that because of such past and present discrimination, there is a power structure in place that is quite frankly dominated by white males, some of whom that discriminate based on race.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    Nope, and you have no idea what's it's like to be a white woman...I've experienced racist attitudes against me for being white I've never physically witnessed any racism towards others. I recognize that it exists but I can never condone social programs that trample on the rights of others in order to make up for past and current racial discrimination. You don't fight discrimination with more discrimination and right now a lot of people seem to be okay with that and it's the white man getting the short end of the stick.
    First of all, I disagree in the strongest terms that in general, white men are getting the short end of the stick relative to black men. The statistics simply don't show that.

    Next of all, anyone who has tried to be successful in corporate America knows that it's not only what you know, but who you know. Therefore people try to network as much as possible to succeed. What I'm saying is that because of past discrimination, the power structure is biased towards white males. Therefore they are more likely to be CEOs and have other such positions of power that make it more likely that a white male will be successful in corporate America. Therefore in cases where there may be a lack of minorities in certain positions, if you have two candidates for the position that are both capable of doing the job, preference should be given to the minority applicant. I don't think that really tramples on anyone's rights, unless you put a person who is not qualified in a position, simply because that person is black, when you could have chosen a white person that was actually qualified. In that case, that is certainly unjust.

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