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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    On purpose, no. But the way that our education system is designed by women for the way that women learn, administrated largely by women, and then taught by women, has resulted in a system that systematically disadvantages boys.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

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    So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?
    If there is....I think I am winning.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    There is no "war" on masculinity as they describe it. What they appear to be describing is the development of non-traditional views on men and masculinity. The development of such views is not a "war" on masculinity so much as it is a "war" the types of masculinity that have historically harmed society and its members.

    Related to this general notion of a "war on masculinity" is the fact that our white supremacist society has always and continues to wage "war" on black masculinity in addition to the masculinity of other groups of color including Asians and Middle Easterners. Black masculinity is consistently characterized as overly aggressive to the point of being animalistic in comparison to white masculinity (which is considered 'normal'). Asian masculinity is consistently characterized as meek and mild in comparison to white masculinity.
    Nice red herring. You're talking subjective bullcrap about cultures. Legally, the war on masculinity is plain as day.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    There is no "war" on masculinity as they describe it. What they appear to be describing is the development of non-traditional views on men and masculinity. The development of such views is not a "war" on masculinity so much as it is a "war" the types of masculinity that have historically harmed society and its members.

    Related to this general notion of a "war on masculinity" is the fact that our white supremacist society has always and continues to wage "war" on black masculinity in addition to the masculinity of other groups of color including Asians and Middle Easterners. Black masculinity is consistently characterized as overly aggressive to the point of being animalistic in comparison to white masculinity (which is considered 'normal'). Asian masculinity is consistently characterized as meek and mild in comparison to white masculinity.
    They why are they feminizing the men with chemicals?
    using known estrogen mimickers such as BPA

    Estrogen Mimickers in BPA Affects Neuro-Endocrine-Immune System Functioning | Holy Hormones Journal

    What other products contain estrogen mimickers? Vinyl shower curtains, air fresheners, dryer sheets, perfumes, sunscreens, cleaning solutions, laundry detergent, cosmetics and shampoos and conditioners. Not to mention synthetic hormone birth control – or the hormones in our meats and milks.


    Bisphenol A Mimics Estrogen, Phthalates Target Testosterone

    NEW YORK, Feb. 5 -- Call these chemicals "his" and "her" endocrine disruptors.

    Although they have been linked to reproductive problems in both sexes, bisphenol A (BPA) and phthalates -- common chemicals found in household plastics -- have gender-specific effects.

    BPA mimics estrogen, while phthalates block testosterone action, Hugh S. Taylor, M.D., of Yale University, said at a press briefing.

    "BPA looks like estrogen," Dr. Taylor, whose research focuses on uterine development and endocrine disruption, said of its chemical structure. "By itself it is a very weak estrogen."

    The chemical stimulates uterine growth, he said, and animal studies have revealed other estrogen-like effects.

    Mice that were exposed to BPA as fetuses developed abnormalities of the ovaries, uterus, and vagina, Dr. Taylor said. Other murine studies found genetic abnormalities in eggs, an increased risk of mammary cancers, and early puberty in females.


    there is scientific proof they are in fact feminizing men if you think this is all done by accident you are mistaken.

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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

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    So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?
    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Unfortunately, everything masculine is being made synonymous with misogynistic, overly macho and ignorant.
    It's not so much a war on masculinity, as a war on any and all recognition of the essential, divinely-engineered differences between male and female. We are turning into a society that discourages men from acting like men, and which equally discourages women from acting like women, trying to fit all into some unnatural androgynous mold.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    No, there isn't. But there is a very correct movement to not define masculinity as being a macho ***hole. There is also the rejection of the position that essentially all good attributes are masculine, while all bad ones are feminine. Once you strip out the misogyny, it turns out that masculinity and femininity have very narrow meanings and not much context outside of specific courtship habits, and most (of not all) of the attributes historically associated with masculinity are simply the attributes of a good person. Courage, integrity, and fortitude spring to mind as obvious examples. Those are not the traits of good men, they are the traits of good people. The same with protecting and providing for one's family, service to one's country, creativity, intellect, and reason. All of these are considered traditionally masculine and that is obvious nonsense. Women have just as much cause to espouse and excel in those areas as men. As do people who do not fall within traditionally understood genders. Those are the traits of good people, not merely good men.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Hancock View Post
    Sure there are certain women in the media who are biased and attack 'masculinity', but I wouldn't call it a war, or an epidemic, or anything of the sort.
    Just as there are certain men in the media who are biased and attack 'femininity'. People act like the second anyone has a different opinion, there's a war going on. It's ridiculous.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    It's not so much a war on masculinity, as a war on any and all recognition of the essential, divinely-engineered differences between male and female. We are turning into a society that discourages men from acting like men, and which equally discourages women from acting like women, trying to fit all into some unnatural androgynous mold.
    There is a cultural shift towards, not only recognizing gender neutral but also demeaning certain masculine traits as negative. I find all the gender blending as part of the new accepted norms confusing.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Nice red herring. You're talking subjective bullcrap about cultures. Legally, the war on masculinity is plain as day.
    There's merit to the culture distinctions.

    That being said, I think there's portions here to be parsed out, acknowledged, but also limited.

    We have to remember that legally and socially, men have had a great deal (many times more than equal power) in determining what is best for both men and women. Men have had a part in determining what is masculinity and what is contrasted to masculinity. Women have promoted it or bought into it over the generations, and much of what we have is as a result of that interplay. That a self-empowered women's movement can and has trumpeted the virtues of womanhood (in whatever way that is perceived) and spoken against what they saw as an overempowered masculinity (and those who see themselves defenders of masculinity would argue that masculinity itself is under attack) should not be denied. That being said, we have to recognize that much of it was a cumulative effect of men in power willfully participating in the process of defining what is legally and socially acceptable and what is not.
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    Re: Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you have any opinions on why that is the case?
    Because leftists tend to seek revenge, not equality. They want to get back at people who oppressed them instead of wanting equity from this point forward. Therefore, you've got radical feminists attacking men, they have no interest in being equal, they want to be better. They want a taste of being on top.
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