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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I agree that it's up to the EU to take a stand. If the EU wants America to take the lead, then it should say so and we should all work together as allies. What I do not want is for some yokels in D.C. sitting around deciding how "they" are going to handle the Russian crisis without giving a second thought as to how their decisions will affect the Europeans and without doing something as simple as asking the Europeans what they need from us, if they do indeed believe they need anything at all.
    There really is no choice but for the EU to bite the bullet and enforce stiff sanctions on Russia. Trade, especially oil and gas sales are the blood of the new Russia. Starving Putin out will not take too long, but the EU nations will take an economic hit also. Given that they are just recovering from the 2008 financial crisis it is not easy to go back into another so quickly. That is the hold up here.

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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    I was going to say USA, EU, and Ukraine. But that probably means NATO then, does it not?
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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    Thought we were all citizens of the world. shouldnt the UN have a say in this?

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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I was going to say USA, EU, and Ukraine. But that probably means NATO then, does it not?
    Yep and Nato was in my OP but forgot to put them in my poll lol
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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    You should have made it multiple choice.
    As it stands, EU + USA.

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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    The EU exclusively, for obvious reasons. Given the total military and economic advantage, the odds for Russia plummet rapidly from desperate to hopeless where the European response begins and ends with holding the frontier. Only a fool invades Russian territory, but then only a psychopath without the will to live attempts to take Europe.

    I only wish the politically illiterate would quit with the 'nukes/WW3' angle. It's embarrassing, frankly. I realise this is a 'political' discussion board, but shouldn't we have some eligibility examination to filter out the uneducated and idiotic? At least upstairs?

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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    The EU exclusively, for obvious reasons. Given the total military and economic advantage, the odds for Russia plummet rapidly from desperate to hopeless where the European response begins and ends with holding the frontier. Only a fool invades Russian territory, but then only a psychopath without the will to live attempts to take Europe.
    Sounds tough. Does it applies though?
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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    There are exactly zero American interests in who controls the Crimea. This is a regional conflict and as such should be dealt with by the powers in that region, which means the EU.
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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There really is no choice but for the EU to bite the bullet and enforce stiff sanctions on Russia. Trade, especially oil and gas sales are the blood of the new Russia. Starving Putin out will not take too long, but the EU nations will take an economic hit also. Given that they are just recovering from the 2008 financial crisis it is not easy to go back into another so quickly. That is the hold up here.
    US spent $5 billion to destabilize Ukraine | Alternative

    The protests in the western Ukraine are organized by the CIA, the US State Department, and by Washington- and EU-financed Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) that work in conjunction with the CIA and State Department. The purpose of the protests is to overturn the decision by the independent government of Ukraine not to join the EU.


    The United States spent $5 billion on Ukraine anti-government riots | PunditFact
    Above is the US governments propaganda saying well yes we did spend 5billion on Ukraine to spread democracy but we did not spend 5 billion to organize protests.
    Think about this for a minute thats like saying well yes we did promote democracy and when the people did not get it! we had no idea they would protest.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY#t=504
    Victoria Nuland's Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to "Subvert Ukraine"


    Meanwhile here in america they are promoting division through race and politics! its very obvious by all the chaos all over the world they want chaos. Do you really think this chaso worldwide is just by accident?

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    Re: Who's should stand upto to Russia?`

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I have to disagree with you there. I think given the sheer scale of WW2 it was inevitable that America got involved and the soldiers who died in that war did so defending the US.
    WWII was Europe and Asia's problem,not ours.It did not become our problem until the traitors in office made it our problem.
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