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Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discrimination?

What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

ecofarm said:
Redundancy aside, that's not true. Why are you pretending to be a victim? Have you been taught to claim victimization whenever someone confronts you?

Don't you try to play the race card on me, buddy. Let's see the post.
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Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post

"There will always be equal protection in the public sphere. Too bad. I'm sorry, but you'll just have to not open a business to the public, then you will not have to be near any black people"

check out the quote from you on #633!
 
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DA60 said:
So if the only well in a desert for 100 miles sells it's water as a business...but the owner denies service to a man near-death from thirst strictly because he is catholic...that should be legal to you?

Yes or no, please?
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Who in the hell sets up a business in the middle of the desert with nothing around for 100 miles and why is moron thirsty boy out there?
 
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ernst barkmann said:
Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post

"There will always be equal protection in the public sphere. Too bad. I'm sorry, but you'll just have to not open a business to the public, then you will not have to be near any black people"

check out the quote from you on #633!
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The pronoun was not personal. I should have used "one".

There, see? You're not a helpless victim being taken advantage of by big bad Ecofarm. Save that routine for the militia.
 
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Henrin said:
Who in the hell sets up a business in the middle of the desert with nothing around for 100 miles and why is moron thirsty boy out there?
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I gave you a simple hypothetical...yes or no, please?
 
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ecofarm said:
The pronoun was not personal. I should have used "one".

There, see? You're not a helpless victim being taken advantage of by big bad Ecofarm. Save that routine for the militia.
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don't bush it off, you said black people ,referring to me as a racist,..i showed you the quote, WHICH YOU ASKED FOR!.... and now you act as though your innocent.
 
Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

This is a tough one.

While I believe that denying anyone anything based on immutable characteristics is wrong, should someone be forced to sell their private property to someone they don't wish to do business with? If the business is entirely private and not state-owned, why must I open my doors to [insert group of people here]? It would not be government enforced discrimination, but rather the right of a/multiple private individual(s) to decide what can be done with their own property. The individual who has been discriminated against could simply take their business elsewhere. You likely wouldn't see large chains closing their doors to specific groups due to fear of losing profits.
 
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ernst barkmann said:
you put your foot in your mouth, and now, all you can do is talk about me....
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I explained that an unfortunate pronoun was used, and that I should have used "one".

And still you insist on being a victim.
 
Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

ecofarm said:
I explained that an unfortunate pronoun was used, and that I should have used "one".

And still you insist on being a victim.
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does not matter you used the word "black" in referring to me.......

when I called you on it...you wanted proof. I provided it.

now your saying .."its all a mistake" after you jumped to your own defense
 
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Henrin said:
When the CRA was being debated there was an entire faction making the same arguments you're seeing here.
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racism is racism is racism and no matter what the excuse for bigotry it is still disgusting no matter how much fancy verbage you try to stick to it.
 
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DA60 said:
I gave you a simple hypothetical...yes or no, please?
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It's a dumb hypothetical question. No one would set up a business where there isn't any customers to be found for a 100 miles. The answer is yes though.
 
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ernst barkmann said:
does not matter you used the word "black" in referring to me.......

when I called you on it...you wanted proof. I provided it.

now your saying .."its all a mistake" after you jumped to your own defense
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It was a mistake, I used the wrong pronoun. I admitted that. Nonetheless, you insist on being a victim. Why must you be a victim?
 
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haymarket said:
racism is racism is racism and no matter what the excuse for bigotry it is still disgusting no matter how much fancy verbage you try to stick to it.
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here I can agree with you...however that does not diminish someone's rights.
 
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ernst barkmann said:
and your words are the same, take away rights of bigots, racist or what ever cause they have I don't like.

you are statist, who believes everything comes from state......even rights
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So lets see - some guy who glorifies people we went to war with trying to conquer the world for Nazism defends "the right" being a bigot and racist calls me a statist. Kind of a complement considering the source.
 
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ecofarm said:
It was a mistake, I used the wrong pronoun. I admitted that. Nonetheless, you insist on being a victim. Why must you be a victim?
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so your admit you were in a sense calling me a racist?
 
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ernst barkmann said:
so your admit you were in a sense calling me a racist?
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Not at all. I admit to a casual and improper use of a pronoun. Why is it so important that you be a victim?
 
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haymarket said:
So lets see - some guy who glorifies people we went to war with trying to conquer the world for Nazism defends "the right" being a bigot and racist calls me a statist. Kind of a complement considering the source.
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well!...thank you very much...its good to see you have no "DEFENSE"......for you case.

I knew, but others needed to see how weak you are in arguments over issues.
 
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ecofarm said:
Not at all. I admit to a casual and improper use of a pronoun. Why is it so important that you be a victim?
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why, because when you said it, I stated right then and there " are you calling me a racist"......and you never answered to make yourself clear, by stating ...no!
 
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Henrin said:
It's a dumb hypothetical question. No one would set up a business where there isn't any customers to be found for a 100 miles. The answer is yes though.
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So, to deny someone a service that you normally provide, strictly because of discrimination, that you believe will stop them from dying should be legal to you.

Noted.

And might I add...your attitude on this is disgusting.


Good day.
 
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ernst barkmann said:
why, because when you said it, I stated right then and there " are you calling me a racist"......and you never answered to make yourself clear, by stating ...no!
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I didn't see that. There are many posts and I don't pay attention to them all. I've made myself clear now.

No!

Are you done claiming to be a victim? I hope your feelings were not hurt too badly by that carelessly used pronoun. I hope that you will be whole again.
 
Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

ecofarm said:
I didn't see that. There are many posts and I don't pay attention to them all. I've made myself clear now.

No!

Are you done claiming to be a victim? I hope your feelings were not hurt too badly.
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well so there is no confusion, let take a look at the past!


ernst barkmann said:
black people, are you saying I am a racist?
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..post 633

in some of our arguments you have gone over the deep end at times, by deflecting talking about Nazis, which has no bearing on the subject.

these are deflections, because I have left you with no response to answer back with.

you act many times, as if I and other people are the enemy, we are not....we are standing up for rights, no matter who they belong to... a racist, bigot, Nazi, kkk member they all have rights.

rights are not..... for some people , and others which the public disagrees with has none......that's not the law.
 
Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

ernst barkmann said:
well so there is no confusion, let take a look at the past!


..post 633

in some of our arguments you have gone over the deep end at times, by deflecting talking about Nazis, which has no bearing on the subject.

these are deflections, because I have left you with no response to answer back with.

you act many times, as if I and other people are the enemy, we are not....we are standing up for rights, no matter who they belong to... a racist, bigot, Nazi, kkk member they all have rights.

rights are not..... for some people , and others which the public disagrees with has none......that's not the law.
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I'm sorry you feel victimized. Good luck overcoming it.
 
Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

ecofarm said:
I'm sorry you feel victimized. Good luck overcoming it.
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well I see, your going to be defiant.

but still I will give you good advise.....stop letting your emotions take over your argument...its destroys it!
 
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ernst barkmann said:
well I see, your going to be defiant.

but still I will give you good advise.....stop letting your emotions take over your argument...its destroys it!
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*you're

Let's be careful with pronouns.
 
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