View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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  • The Right to Discriminate

    38 33.04%
  • Freedom From Discrimination

    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You are making someone subservient simply by denying them from making a transaction. If someone runs out of gas and is willing to pay you for gas so they can make it home and you deny them based on race you have made them subservient.
    that's impossible, I cannot make them subservient, because they can walk out the door at anytime.

    but you can make me subservient by using the power of government to make me serve you, or the government forces me out of business.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Government force is not universally unjust.
    Wow, glad to see it's not "all or "nothing".

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I guess you don't know much about history? Look at what life was like for black people just 60 years ago. His about in Germany under the Nazi's when rights were taken away from Jews?
    Yes, the German government exercised force against the Jews, the American government used to exercise force against African Americans. But how about you tell me what rights were violated by being refused service? There are certainly specific situations where it does violate rights, but in general, what rights are violated?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And let me know if your survival ever comes down to a cupcake and that you have no other alternative than that one shop.
    Sure, who cares when it's a cupcake. But what about when it's electricity?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Wow, glad to see it's not "all or "nothing".
    I told you long ago it wasn't. I have yet to see anyone advocate for anarchy.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    How far are you willing to take this statement?
    It's a heck better than the alternative of what we had 60 years ago.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Hey, I have Henrin in here who wants to deny all services including medical if he wants to.
    What I said is that the doctor that provides his labor or the hospital that provides their property to care for individual in question has the right to refuse to do so if that is what they want to do.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sure, who cares when it's a cupcake. But what about when it's electricity?
    There are certainly specific situations where denial of service does infringe upon rights, and in those situations one can properly use government force to protect the rights of the individual.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's a heck better than the alternative of what we had 60 years ago.
    Yes, but how about you answer the question. How far are you willing to take that statement?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There are certainly specific situations where denial of service does infringe upon rights, and in those situations one can properly use government force to protect the rights of the individual.
    But we should let the little things slide, to make the racists happy... right? A tiny bit of economic race warfare intent to create a second class never hurt anyone, right?

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