View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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  • The Right to Discriminate

    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No you're not. Your advocating general public ownership of private property and labor.
    Public ownership would mean any profit being made would go back to the public. It does not mean treating people like equals.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    How about this.

    You own a place of business, and an individual comes in who stinks to high heavens.

    Do you have a right to ask him to leave, or do you have to serve him because otherwise it would be to discriminate against stinky people?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Public ownership would mean any profit being made would go back to the public. It does not mean treating people like equals.
    No, public ownership would mean that the public had authority over another's property and labor and may direct it. Which is what you're advocating.

    Really, you need to at least understand that which you are advocating.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's just ridiculous. What you want is someone to be subservient to you if you are a merchant, as if a merchant is above anyone. I'm just advocating for equal treatment.
    can you explain how I am making you subservient to me.....since you came to me, your own my property, your wanting something from me....and you have the ability to walk out of by business at any time.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I would own the gas I bought and paid for that is stored in my station, yes.
    I actually know someone who owns a gas station and they would disagree with you. They depend on making transaction to pay back those that supply the gas and hope to make a small profit, because the gas supplier gets paid for his gas.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Some people do not understand the fundamentals of the philosophy they push. The "feel good" stuff often times comes at costs of rights, but it won't be acknowledge. The base of what is being advocated, that private property and labor is not the sole possession of the individual, but of the aggregate public; that's the bottom line. Communist BS.
    I don't know if you ever heard some on the left claim property like lakes , which a property owner pays taxes on, are not his but the public's.

    and they claim they can cross your property at any time, and use the lake your paying for thru taxes, which is on your land.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I actually know someone who owns a gas station and they would disagree with you. They depend on making transaction to pay back those that supply the gas and hope to make a small profit, because the gas supplier gets paid for his gas.
    They are more than free to disagree, and as I have stated before it is in the general interest of a business to do commerce. But it's still their gas. So moving goal posts doesn't really do anything here.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I don't know if you ever heard some on the left claim property like lakes , which a property owner pays taxes on, are not his but the public's.

    and they claim they can cross your property at any time, and use the lake your paying for thru taxes, which is on your land.
    Lots of people like to feel entitled to your stuff. Usually it's because they're too lazy to get their own stuff.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    with liberty comes many things a person does not like.....
    Yeah, like a merchant making a transaction with people they may discriminate against.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah, like a merchant making a transaction with people they may discriminate against.
    that's true we agree, for once......but that is the price of liberty..

    I know you have been offended by things people say, however they have a right to say them.

    free speech is the ability to say things other do not like, if we all agreed in our speech, there would be no need for a right to free speech.

    liberty allows us to be offensive to others.

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