View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You don't have the right to harm someone. You also don't have the right to discriminate against someone if you are selling goods to the public. Pretty darn simple.
    What harm am I causing by denying them service again? Btw, if it was legal and I knew someone supported anti-discrimination laws I would charge them triple for everything in my store. Why? Because I don't like them and I will be damned if they get anything from me for cheap.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, I didn't say government should tell you what to drink, eat or smoke.....I just said that if you make an obligation to sell goods/services to the public then you should treat the public as equals. Not really such a hard concept.
    Should of, would of, could of. None of which are proper basis for law. Violation of rights is proper basis for law. One has no obligation to sell goods to anyone, even if they have a shop. Of course to remain a business, it is in your interest to sell goods and services, but there's no obligation to do so.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if you had a right, to make me do something........then I would be subservient to you.....that is close to being a slave, and an unconstitutional act.

    there are no rights , which lay a cost or burden on another citizen.

    That's just ridiculous. What you want is someone to be subservient to you if you are a merchant, as if a merchant is above anyone. I'm just advocating for equal treatment.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I am not advocating anyone be discriminated against..to me, its a abomination......however as someone who follows constitutional law...I have by my principles when it comes to rights , that I stand by all people's rights...not by people being offended.
    It's a hard position to take since it means arguing for actions you may dislike quite a lot. But IMO it's proper because it's the only way to maintain freedom.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's just ridiculous. What you want is someone to be subservient to you if you are a merchant, as if a merchant is above anyone. I'm just advocating for equal treatment.
    No, you are advocating merchants be slaves to others and not be able to decide on which transactions they consent to or not.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's just ridiculous. What you want is someone to be subservient to you if you are a merchant, as if a merchant is above anyone. I'm just advocating for equal treatment.
    No you're not. Your advocating general public ownership of private property and labor.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not anyone elses' property, so where is the validation for that force? If the denial of service directly violates the rights of another, then there is argument for force. But if not, then there's really not.
    Um, that can be debated. If you own a gas station, do you own the gas in the ground? The bottle water that Poland Spring markets?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, you are advocating merchants be slaves to others and not be able to decide on which transactions they consent to or not.
    Some people do not understand the fundamentals of the philosophy they push. The "feel good" stuff often times comes at costs of rights, but it won't be acknowledge. The base of what is being advocated, that private property and labor is not the sole possession of the individual, but of the aggregate public; that's the bottom line. Communist BS.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No you're not. Your advocating general public ownership of private property and labor.
    No, people are advocating equal protection in the public sphere.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Um, that can be debated. If you own a gas station, do you own the gas in the ground? The bottle water that Poland Spring markets?
    I would own the gas I bought and paid for that is stored in my station, yes.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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