View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    They want it from you because you are selling it. The vile concept are attitudes that merchants should have a right to discriminate.
    and that property I have is my property not yours........the vile concept is thinking that everyone is equal BY law.

    government has no authority to make people equal by law..only under the law.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why are you applying constitutional law to the people?
    I'm not. I'm applying it to the public sphere, which includes businesses open to the public. Within the public sphere, the government is obligated to provide equal protection.

    If you don't want blacks near you, don't open a business to the public. Easy enough?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    and that property I have is my property not yours.......

    No, the property you have you are selling to the public. If you don't want to sell it to the public then don't. That doesn't justify you withholding transaction with people you feel are less equal or worthy of you.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not. I'm applying it to the public sphere, which includes businesses open to the public. Within the public sphere, the government is obligated to provide equal protection.
    public sphere, ..you said that people have to treat people equality by law.

    I stated government has to treat people equal by law, because that is constitutional law.

    people don't have to treat you equally, because constitutional law, does not apply to the people

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, the property you have you are selling to the public. If you don't want to sell it to the public then don't. That doesn't justify you withholding transaction with people you feel are less equal or worthy of you.
    oh, so my property by me open to the public .gives you a lend on that property?

    feel less than worthy?...here we are back to emotions governing law again!

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    public sphere, ..you said that people have to treat people equality by law.
    Within the public sphere. Just like government employees (who are people) must do the same.

    I stated government has to treat people equal by law, because that is constitutional law.
    And this includes protection in the public sphere.

    people don't have to treat you equally, because constitutional law, does not apply to the people
    They do if they are employed within the public sphere, whether they are government or private employees.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not. I'm applying it to the public sphere, which includes businesses open to the public. Within the public sphere, the government is obligated to provide equal protection.
    ....under the law. Which just so happens to have nothing to do with business operations.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And this includes protection in the public sphere.
    No, it only includes matters dealing with the government. It has nothing to do with how businesses operate.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Within the public sphere. Just like government employees (who are people) must do the same.



    And this includes protection in the public sphere.



    They do if they are employed within the public sphere, whether they are government or private employees.
    sorry I don't have to treat you fair.........that does not mean I can cheat you...it means I can sell a hammer to you for 10 bucks, but sell it to my friend for 1 buck.

    but I cant advertise it at 5 bucks and make you pay 10...if I want I can give him the hammer free, right in front of you.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh, so my property by me open to the public .gives you a lend on that property?

    feel less than worthy?...here we are back to emotions governing law again!
    What do you mean by lend? No one is trying to pry your property from your hands. If you are selling it then sell it. If you are not then don't. Just don't think you have some special right to look down on another and decide if they are worthy of your transaction. And, that is exactly what discrimination is about in case you don't understand that concept. You are judging the worth of someone over their traits.

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