View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A private club, with private membership, which is not open to the public. One can have all the cross burnings and hood parties one wants therein.
    So basically the government controls access to private property. Do you see any problems with that at all?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So basically the government controls access to private property. You don't see any problems with that at all?
    False. The government provides equal protection in the public sphere.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    There will always be equal protection in the public sphere. Too bad. I'm sorry, but you'll just have to not open a business to the public, then you will not have to be near any black people.
    black people, are you saying I am a racist?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no I am right..

    this is not the federalist papers, it is Madison...who wrote thethe bill of rights, and stuck to the principle of life liberty and property.[/B]

    you and others do not have authority on my property. Period.
    You mean this bill of rights with this amendment...
    on property

    nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    That James Madison?

    Sorry. If due process is provided, your property can be denied.

    You don't except that fact, but that is irrelevant.


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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    False. The government provides equal protection in the public sphere.
    No, your argument is supporting the position that the government should be in control of private property and make the rules on who should have access to it.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    black people, are you saying I am a racist?
    I'm saying that if you want to stay away from black people, you are free to do so in the private sphere. If you open a business to the public, then the government is obligated to provide equal protection to those in the public sphere.

    No one forces you to place a business in the public sphere.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You mean this bill of rights with this amendment...
    on property

    nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    That James Madison?

    Sorry. If due process is provided, your property can be denied.

    You don't except that fact, but that is irrelevant.
    You do realize that is a limit on government, right?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, your argument is supporting the position that the government should be in control of private property and make the rules on who should have access to it.
    False.

    Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm saying that if you want to stay away from black people, you are free to do so in the private sphere. If you open a business to the public, then the government is obligated to provide equal protection to those in the public sphere.

    No one forces you to place a business in the public sphere.
    No, what you're saying is the government gets to dictate to private property owners how they will use their property and under what conditions access and use of the property will be governed.

    You're also saying to people under what conditions they will provide people their labor and association. You know what we call that? Slavery.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You mean this bill of rights with this amendment...
    on property

    nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    That James Madison?

    Sorry. If due process is provided, your property can be denied.

    You don't except that fact, but that is irrelevant.



    wrong!!!!..due process takes place when a crime has taken place!. Or a violation of health and safety regulation is violated.

    a violation of someone rights...is a crime

    discrimination law, ..is administrative law...not criminal law..........their is no rights violation, or health and safety concern..you are wrong again.

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