View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sorry you misunderstood. Better luck next time.
    Maybe you should look at the post post you quoted again. I added to it while you were responding... or should I say not responding.

    My original question to you still stands:

    I would like to see if you could please explain to me in as much detail as this medium will allow, and with factual data and not anecdotal evidence, that discrimination exists on a societal level.

    Remember, were talking about discrimination, not racism.
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    My original question to you still stands:

    I would like to see if you could please explain to me in as much detail as this medium will allow, and with factual data and not anecdotal evidence, that discrimination exists on a societal level.

    Remember, were talking about discrimination, not racism.
    The request is too broad. It depends on what kind of discrimination to which you refer. As I was referring to racism, in all of my posts herein, it should be obvious how racism exists on a societal level.

    What kind of discrimination are you referring to, and how is it relevant to the topic?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The request is too broad. It depends on what kind of discrimination to which you refer. As I was referring to racism, in all of my posts herein, it should be obvious how racism exists on a societal level.

    What kind of discrimination are you referring to, and how is it relevant to the topic?
    Of course racism exists on a societal level. I've already agreed with you on that. I also said that racism comes in all colors and hews.

    I want you to answer the question as you defined discrimination in post number 3 in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The reason some do not care about freedom from unjust discrimination is they're white and suffer no such threat on a societal level. The world ends at their nose.
    Now, can you please explain to me in as much detail as this medium will allow, and with factual data and not anecdotal evidence, that discrimination exists on a societal level.

    Remember, again, were talking about discrimination (an act), not racism (a thought).
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Of course racism exists on a societal level. I've already agreed with you on that. I also said that racism comes in all colors and hews.

    I want you to answer the question as you defined discrimination in post number 3 in this thread.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1063182741

    Now, can you please explain to me in as much detail as this medium will allow, and with factual data and not anecdotal evidence, that discrimination exists on a societal level.

    Remember, again, were talking about discrimination (an act), not racism (a thought).
    Discrimination exists on a societal level through the actions of real racists in the realm of business, courts and all other aspects of life.

    When bigotry is employed by the majority in power, it permeates society and thus exists at the societal level.

    Do you want examples of racists in action? Just consider the realms I noted.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Discrimination exists on a societal level through the actions of real racists in the realm of business, courts and all other aspects of life.
    In what way? How do businesses discriminate on a societal level? How do courts discriminate on a societal level? How do other aspects of life discriminate on a societal level?
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    In what way? How do businesses discriminate on a societal level? How do courts discriminate on a societal level? How do other aspects of life discriminate on a societal level?
    Through the actions of racists. The courts, or businesses, are not racists in and of themselves - they're inanimate objects and are incapable of acts of will.

    Why are you asking how inanimate objects can be racists.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Through the actions of racists.
    How? In what way? With what results?
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    How? In what way? With what results?
    You don't understand how racists impact society?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    And if you aren't a member of a protected class?
    Then the discrimination is an individual discrimination, which is allowed, unless and until a pattern evolves and a new class in need of protection is identified.
    jallman: "It's all good. At least you have a thick skin and can take being poked fun back at without crying. "

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You don't understand how racists impact society?
    Of course I do. As I stated before, I seen it from multiple sides.

    What I don't know, is what you meant by that damning and broad statement you made in post 3 as well as if you actually understand what you said.

    So far, I've gotten deflection from discrimination to racism and now I'm getting circular arguments from you.

    I really would like to hear your reasoning behind your statement. I don't want to argue and have done everything I can to prevent this from getting to that.

    Can you please explain to me your thoughts and your reasoning behind your statement that discrimination is done on a societal level and if you can, I'll ask you about the white people comment, although I've intentionally steered away from that.
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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