View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Aww, shucks. Now I can't get mad.

    I guess I'm not concerned by what constitutional authority we have civil rights laws. I would be ashamed of my country if we still had signs on businesses that said, "Blacks not welcome here." That was a dark period in our history, in my opinion. The famous fact that Jackie Robinson couldn't stay with the rest of his team (until they stood up for him) because the team hotels wouldn't admit blacks was pretty low down. And even that we had Negro Baseball Leagues. That, during the second world war, blacks had to move off the sidewalks in the south when whites were going by...I mean, really??

    i agreed with the history part.....however ...when there is Liberty, there are going to be people who do things you don't like.

    i see things i don't like all the time, however i have no right or government has no authority to stop people from doing them.

    if we as a people start picking and choosing rights, depending on how we FEEL, we will not have any right left.

    Miley Cyrus is an example for me of things i don't like.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    So long as you don't refuse to work for a colored (any color other than white Caucasian) person in an area where you would work for a white, and visa versa, ... refuse to work for a white in the same area you feel is unsafe and predominantly colored.... so long as that is true, you're not discriminating based on race. The same would hold true for any protected class of people.
    And if you aren't a member of a protected class?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The argument was about how the labor that Edison provided towards the creation of the light bulb gave him a right to the light bulb he created. Patents are another matter all together.
    He gets to decide to market it or not but he can't say "I will only sell my light bulb to white people."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    My question is not necessarily about civil rights laws. It's more fundamental. I'm asking if you think that you, personally, have the right to violate the body or property of your neighbor in order to force him to do business against his will.
    I guess I'd have to say that, regardless of whether I knew someone or not, I'd support laws that prevented them from discriminating on the basis of someone's religion or sex or marital status or race. If he sees fit not to do business with these people and gets caught? He deserves what he gets.

    When did we, as a people, turn so callous toward our fellow man?

    You ought to know I'm a Realtor. Knowing and respecting civil rights laws is the difference between jail, a quarter-million-dollar lawsuit, and a successful career.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The idea of the light bulb is entirely different from the light bulb he created. You're purposely missing the point here it seems.
    no she stated government created the right to property.........if Edison created the blub.......was it his?........or did he have to get government approval for it to be his property?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    ...because they don't have a history of discrimination.
    Are you quite certain of that? Blond jokes have been around for a long time...

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Are you quite certain of that? Blond jokes have been around for a long time...
    If there is a need, they can certainly see their representative to make a case.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Trying to understand the statist ethic.
    Statist? In what way? I don't approve of giving a centralized government control over commerce.
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That property came from an idea and then he needed to buy the goods to make it. He then was able to protect his idea but needs to pay to have those bulbs manufactured.
    that is not what i am asking......dont go off track.

    you stated government created the right to property.

    Edison created the blub.....thru his own means..........did government own the blub after it was created, and then government give its right to that property to Edison?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I guess I'd have to say that, regardless of whether I knew someone or not, I'd support laws that prevented them from discriminating on the basis of someone's religion or sex or marital status or race. If he sees fit not to do business with these people and gets caught? He deserves what he gets.
    So, just to be crystal clear, you're saying that you would support violating the body or property of your fellow man in order to force him to do business with someone against his will?

    If that's the case, I can't agree with violating the body or property of anyone who hasn't (or is in the process of) violating the body or property of anyone else. That would constitute an initiation of aggression, and I don't feel I have the right to initiate aggression against my fellow man.

    When did we, as a people, turn so callous toward our fellow man?
    Speaking for myself, I don't feel I'm callous toward my fellow man. I love my fellow man, and refuse to initiate aggression against him, even when I think he's being a dick.

    You ought to know I'm a Realtor. Knowing and respecting civil rights laws is the difference between jail, a quarter-million-dollar lawsuit, and a successful career.
    Appreciate you letting me know. Thx.

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