View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And yet, once you force the merchant through the guns of government, you'd be doing nothing different from the former case.
    That's so dishonest. You can't compare government taking your property away that was never for sale with a merchant selling a product.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I see, so it is a man made right. Thanks for clarifying.
    wrong!!!!!........if two people,claim the same property......then it is the court, to determine rightful ownership of the property........that is why we have government ...to protect the [right of property].

    don't act like you don't understand.

    getting back to my question you did not answer.....when Edison invented the light blub, did he not have the right to it, did he not file a patten defending his natural right to it, using the power of government to defend his right of the light blub.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, I'm calling out his strawman.
    It's not a straw man. A straw man is an inaccurate portrayal of one's position. Rather, this is question regarding your position.

    Do you feel you have the right to violate the person or property of one your neighbor in order to force him to do business with someone against his will?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No doubt. I don't need a reason to remove someone from my property. I do however need a reason to consider something in violation of my property rights.
    And they are man made laws.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's so dishonest. You can't compare government taking your property away that was never for sale with a merchant selling a product.
    The products are on sale for those the seller agrees to sell to.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I love when people fail to defend anti-discrimination laws they run to the idea that the government created the right to property. That is like claiming they created your body, your facilities and your labor. lol.
    yes, your correct.......everything about you is property.....and government is instituted to protect that property.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    And they are man made laws.
    Laws to defend property are not the origin of property. Don't be absurd.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong!!!!!........if two people,claim the same property......then it is the court, to determine rightful ownership of the property........that is why we have government ...to protect the [right of property].

    don't act like you don't understand.

    getting back to my question you did not answer.....when Edison invented the light blub, did he not have the right to it, did he not file a patten defending his natural right to it, using the power of government to defend his right of the light blub.
    I'm going to ignore your post if you are going to act like an arse. I understood your post just fine. It was a rather silly one because in order for a government to decide who gets the land, it is all due to man made laws.

    Getting back to your other question, what does that have yo do with the price of tea in a China?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Laws to defend property are not the origin of property. Don't be absurd.
    No, your being absurd because in order for a person to be in violation, there needs to be a man made law against it.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Ah, all man made laws!
    those are, but i have a natural right to property, if government gave me the right [as you claim], then government could take away the right......government would in essence own all property in the u.s. making it a communist state in your mind.

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