View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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  • The Right to Discriminate

    38 33.04%
  • Freedom From Discrimination

    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    If you are open to the general public, you are a public business. If you are a government entity, you are not a public business, as you are not a business, you are the government.
    Maybe a better way to put this would be to say that a business is granted a license by the government to operate within the public sphere, or more accurately within and as a part of our society. By being granted and accepting the license, you are agreeing to offer your services or products to anyone in our society that has the means to remunerate you. This is only limited in certain instances by other external laws, none of which have a bearing on race, creed, color or sex. For instance, you have to require a prescription to sell certain medication, you cannot sell a weapon to a felon and you cannot sell cigarettes to underage children.

    Without the license to operate as a business, commerce is limited or not allowed.

    We as a people have determined that it is in the best interest of our society to restrict business/commerce to those that agree to follow certain rules. Among those rules are tax laws, anti-discrimination laws in hiring, paying and promotion of employees as offering of services or products for sale and many, many others.

    If a person doesn't want to follow the laws of our society, then they can attempt to change the laws by legal means, or by electing like minded people to government to change the law through legislation.

    There are a number of examples of the legal means in recent SCOTUS rulings, either affirming or changing these laws.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    not possible....your yard is your property....its a natural right [right to property].....no one can exercise a right on another persons property lawfully, unless you get permission from the owner
    Um, property is a man made right.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, not true. I could be against government trying to take someone's land away but against a merchant discriminating against a buyer.
    You are avoiding the question of whether you feel you have the right to violate the person or property of one your neighbor in order to force him to do business with someone against his will?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Maybe a better way to put this would be to say that a business is granted a license by the government to operate within the public sphere, or more accurately within and as a part of our society.
    Do you feel as if you have the right to violate the person or property of your neighbor in order to prevent him from operating a business?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Um, property is a man made right.
    no its a natural right.

    i have a right to create property for myself, or obtain property from others.

    are you saying when Edison invented the light blub, it was not his property, but a right to it granted by the government?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Do you feel as if you have the right to violate the person or property of your neighbor in order to prevent him from operating a business?
    In what way do you mean?
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    You are avoiding the question of whether you feel you have the right to violate the person or property of one your neighbor in order to force him to do business with someone against his will?
    No, I'm calling out his strawman.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no its a natural right.

    i have a right to create property for myself, or obtain property from others.

    are you saying when Edison invented the light blub, it was not his property, but a right to it granted by the government?
    Can you obtain that property without consent of other people who claim said property?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    What if someone had a natural right to piss in your yard? You have a legal right not to allow them.
    They don't have a natural right to piss in my yard though.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They don't have a natural right to piss in my yard though.
    Right because there are man made laws against that which was the point.

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