View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    There are laws to protect groups of people from being discriminated against and the law is not finite to any particular group. If red heads are finding themselves being denied services in place after place, they can go to their representative.
    Are there now? Not finite? Last I looked the law referred to race, age, gender (identity), religion, and orientation. I don't remember hair color or clothing choices as being protected classes. But please feel free to show me a law that states otherwise.

    And, sexual harassment IS part and parcel to the argument because it is specific to a place of business. Give me an example of sexual harassment in a residential place. Commerce does has its rules and regulation. It does not allow for whatever the hell I please.
    Sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Aside from the "do this or lose your job/get crap assignments" type of harassment, pretty much any kind of sexual harassment that can happen in the workplace can happen on the street or in a home or any other setting. Sexual harassment is not isolated to the workplace. Obviously you are way behind on your sexual harassment training.

    An owner can shut down their doors if they don't want to follow the rules.
    Ah so you will allow for some kinds of discrimination from a business but not others....how inconsistent of you.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Are there now? Not finite? Last I looked the law referred to race, age, gender (identity), religion, and orientation. I don't remember hair color or clothing choices as being protected classes. But please feel free to show me a law that states otherwise.



    Sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Aside from the "do this or lose your job/get crap assignments" type of harassment, pretty much any kind of sexual harassment that can happen in the workplace can happen on the street or in a home or any other setting. Sexual harassment is not isolated to the workplace. Obviously you are way behind on your sexual harassment training.



    Ah so you will allow for some kinds of discrimination from a business but not others....how inconsistent of you.
    Not being finite means that the law can amend. As I stated, if red heads are finding themselves being discriminated in place after place, they can contact their representative.

    Sexual harassment is not isolated to the workplace.
    Neither is discrimination but neither is legal in a place of business.

    Ah so you will allow for some kind of discrimination from a business but not others
    How is a business deciding that they rather close down than follow the rules discrimination?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So if people can't eat or can't see the doctor because the only places in town won't serve them because of their skin color or religion, that's fine with you.
    What happens to the people in town if the only doctor keeled over and dies? What would they do?

    I would suggest that whatever they would do if the doctor were to die, they could do the exact same thing if the doctor were to refuse to do business with them.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    What happens to the people in town if the only doctor keeled over and dies? What would they do?

    I would suggest that whatever they would do if the doctor were to die, they could do the exact same thing if the doctor were to refuse to do business with them.
    Yet, if a doctor refused to treat because of some bigotry, and the person refused treatment died due to the lack, I could see a lawsuit happening.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I think you missed the point. I was not saying there should be no taxation.
    Do you or do you not support compulsory taxation?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you or do you not support compulsory taxation?
    I support each citizen contributing what is NECESSARY for government to perform its constitutionally authorized functions. And yes, I think that should be compulsory. It does not necessarily have to be in the form of taxation, but that is the most practical and least regressive way to do it.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    What happens to the people in town if the only doctor keeled over and dies? What would they do?

    I would suggest that whatever they would do if the doctor were to die, they could do the exact same thing if the doctor were to refuse to do business with them.
    And that would apply to the do-it-the-liberal-way-or-you-have-the-right-to-not-do-business crowd. How is the protected class better off if the business owner closes up shop and/or goes elsewhere to do business?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    What happens to the people in town if the only doctor keeled over and dies? What would they do?

    I would suggest that whatever they would do if the doctor were to die, they could do the exact same thing if the doctor were to refuse to do business with them.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Sexual harassment is not isolated to the workplace.
    Neither is discrimination but neither is legal in a place of business.
    But sexual harassment is illegal outside the workplace, discrimination is not.

    How is a business deciding that they rather close down than follow the rules discrimination?
    If the reason that they are shutting down is so that they don't have to serve the group that they are discriminating against? "I'm the only doctor in town and I'm shutting down so that I don't treat any blacks!" How is that not discrimination?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    But sexual harassment is illegal outside the workplace, discrimination is not.
    Mind giving an example?

    If the reason that they are shutting down is so that they don't have to serve the group that they are discriminating against? "I'm the only doctor in town and I'm shutting down so that I don't treat any blacks!" How is that not discrimination?
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