View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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Thread: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discrimination?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I'm sure all are protected.
    So if everyone is protected, then the comment made to me that there is no law that protects everyone was not true.

    In other words, the government can force the hand of any business owner to engage in commerce with someone else, whether he chooses to or not. Exactly what I said earlier but was told was incorrect.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Guns of government
    What do you think all government force is ultimately backed by?

    Again, you should really understand the philosophy you exalt.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, so? All that means is that the doctor didn't do anything to better the condition of the individual needing help.
    Yeah sure.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    They are not free to with hold their property due to discrimination.
    Because you have assumed ownership of their property and labor and use the force of government to get your way.

    The natural limits to rights, are of course, something of an entirely different ballgame.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah sure.
    Then we are in agreement that the failure to provide someone a service does not worsen someones condition, but simply does not act to better it.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So if everyone is protected, then the comment made to me that there is no law that protects everyone was not true.

    In other words, the government can force the hand of any business owner to engage in commerce with someone else, whether he chooses to or not. Exactly what I said earlier but was told was incorrect.
    I've no idea which poster you are talking about but certain groups of people are protected.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What do you think all government force is ultimately backed by?

    Again, you should really understand the philosophy you exalt.
    Oh, please that is ridiculous. That law is in effect and to suggest guns of government is pressing down on people is over the top.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's not a free society but an oppressed one if you happen to be on the receiving end of hate.
    Its as free as it gets. By the way I don't serve gangbangers because I hate them. I am just not interested in associating with them. People just don't serve people out of hate it can be many reasons, most of them boiling down to they just don't wish to associate with whomever for whatever reasons.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I've no idea which poster you are talking about but certain groups of people are protected.
    The ones who told me that there is no law in place that requires a business owner to serve everyone. That is assuming what you are saying is correct. Someone is wrong.

    If "national descent" is considered protected, that would mean every white person in the USA is in the protected class, because every white person comes from another nation by descent.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So if everyone is protected, then the comment made to me that there is no law that protects everyone was not true.
    Any law that doesn't protect everyone or encourages selective enforcement likely shouldn't be a law in the first place.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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