View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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Thread: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discrimination?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Nor is it their business what you do in your free time, right?
    Engaging in business in the public domain isn't free time.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    I chose the first option, but I was thinking in terms of thoughts rather than actions...

    I'm not entirely sure on this one...

    On the one hand, I think everyone should have the right to be an asshole.
    But on the other hand, we can't have any legal support acting like one.

    In the OP's example, I would say that the police would have no business enforcing someone's discrimination.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    In the OP's example, I would say that the police would have no business enforcing someone's discrimination.
    So if I don't want a person to be on my home lawn simply because that person is Jewish, the police shouldn't be enforcing my discrimination?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yes, AA is a symptom of racism, but is not it.
    Government treating people differently due to skin color is Government Racism.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yes, AA is a symptom of racism, but is not it.
    In most forms AA is racism. Having different standards based on race is racism. Encouraging participation (recruiting?) is OK, for example running add campaigns in minority heavy media or geographic areas. Adding "diversity" points based on race is not OK.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    So if I don't want a person to be on my home lawn simply because that person is Jewish, the police shouldn't be enforcing my discrimination?
    And there's the other side of it.

    I'd say since it's your private dwelling you should expect the police to assist, even though you're a bigoted asshole (in that situation).

    But on the other hand, if you have a public business they should not.

    Unless other factors are involved beyond the bigotry, of course.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    The right to discriminate? Eh?

    The right to be prejudiced is something I would acknowledge but the right to actually discriminate is something I would never acknowledge till the end of my existence.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    The right to discriminate? Eh?

    The right to be prejudiced is something I would acknowledge but the right to actually discriminate is something I would never acknowledge till the end of my existence.
    You discriminate every day. From where you park your car, to who you hire as a babysitter, to what you watch on TV.

    You put up an ad for a babysitter, and this guy shows up. Are you going to hire him?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You discriminate every day. From where you park your car, to who you hire as a babysitter, to what you watch on TV.

    You put up an ad for a babysitter, and this guy shows up. Are you going to hire him?
    Discrimination as per the Oxford English Dictionary = The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex

    I would not hire this guy because in mutilating his face in such a way he has proven to me that he is not going to help raise my children in the way i wish them to be raised. Is that unjust or prejudicial? I think not. I am putting expectations for people (the only expectation in this case being that my child is raised in a way that I am comfortable with) that determine whether or not they receive a job, he failed to meet expectations therefor he did not get the job. That is not unjust.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Interesting. So you think it might be just for someone to use force to take what belongs to you. Under what circumstances would you think this would be just?
    Somebody owns a gun... they attempt to use it to commit a crime and it is taken away.

    Would you agree that is just?
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