View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Precisely. Liberal sentiments can only go so far.
    People like you make me glad that we still have guns.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Which is more important: the "right" to discriminate, or freedom from discrimination?

    Remember, you can't have both. If a business refuses to serve someone because he's black, and he refuses to leave and the business calls the cops to enforce their "right"...it is at that moment that we have government-enforced racism.

    Is that really what we want?
    I can't justify initiating aggression against a person to coerce him to do business with someone against his choice. I don't think I have a right to do that.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    People like you make me glad that we still have guns.
    Whereas I'm glad we do not leave decisions to children with wild dreams.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Generally, the only places where one has a right to discriminate is in one's home (or other non-public property) or in a private membership club
    If private clubs have a right to discriminate, why are they getting sued to let person x in or person y in?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's just ridiculous. No one is forcing you out of a cupcake. As a merchant, your job is to sell goods and services not to discriminate. If at any time you don't want to sell goods anymore, you are free to stop.
    No one is forcing you into the business either. No one is preventing you from making your own business that is open to more people. You do not own a man's property or labor, that's it. You claim ownership of another man's labor and feel entitled to the sweat of another man's brow. It's a bit sickening, but I suppose that's the "me" first era we live in.

    No one has to sell you anything of theirs, you don't own it. You don't like the outcome, so you use the guns of government to force it. That's all there is to it. Sorry if the truth hurts.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Whereas I'm glad we do not leave decisions to children with wild dreams.
    We essentially do. Cry baby entitled jerks who think another man's property is their own.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Omitting a group does not equate to "it's okay". As a matter of fact, just because a group is not listed doesn't mean it can't be listed and if enough people are finding they are being discriminated due to a particular reason , that group of people are free to talk with their representative because discrimination is not okay.
    By the way, what "nations of origin" are protected, meaning you have to engage in commerce with those people if they want to engage you?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, it's not. Can an ER doctor turn you away if you were sick or dying because he hates your religion? No, he can't as any person selling a good or service cannot.

    Actually it should be his right to do as he sees fit.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No one is forcing you into the business either. No one is preventing you from making your own business that is open to more people. You do not own a man's property or labor, that's it. You claim ownership of another man's labor and feel entitled to the sweat of another man's brow. It's a bit sickening, but I suppose that's the "me" first era we live in.

    No one has to sell you anything of theirs, you don't own it. You don't like the outcome, so you use the guns of government to force it. That's all there is to it. Sorry if the truth hurts.
    People are not free to do whatever the hell they please. That to me sounds more like the "me" first generation

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Actually it should be his right to do as he sees fit.
    And someone could die if that doctor decides he doesn't want to help you.

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