View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is just what I said - when it benefits you it is proper in your view. Otherwise - not so much. Typical libertarian hypocrisy.
    uh you completely misread what I wrote. I said we want the government only to act in its proper areas and that MAY OR MAY NOT be in our best interest

    how could you so completely fail to understand that simple sentence?



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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    YOu want government in your life when it is to your advantage and then you want small government to stay out of your life when it is not to your liking. At least you are consistent with your past behaviors in this area.
    Precisely. I want law that protect the person and property of my fellow Americans, and I oppose law that violates the person and property of my fellow American. In either case, I support the concept of law. I just have different ideas than you with respect to what ought to be illegal. I think it ought to be illegal to dictate to a property owner who he must allow access to his property. You apparently want the law prevents property owners from controlling access to their own property.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do you find libertarians so frightening?
    Why do I find people who want to destroy American society and take us back to the gilded age horrors to be loathsome and despicable? Its a bit of a self explanatory situation.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why do I find people who want to destroy American society and take us back to the gilded age horrors to be loathsome and despicable? Its a bit of a self explanatory situation.
    How is the philosophy this country was based on going to destroy America unless you are conceding that the leftwing illnesses that have corrupted our government would be destroyed by the concept of freedom and a limited government?



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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    How is the philosophy this country was based on going to destroy America unless you are conceding that the leftwing illnesses that have corrupted our government would be destroyed by the concept of freedom and a limited government?
    As I have already answered --- we would return to the horrors of the gilded age and life would get really really bad for scores of millions of Americans.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Precisely. I want law that protect the person and property of my fellow Americans, and I oppose law that violates the person and property of my fellow American. In either case, I support the concept of law. I just have different ideas than you with respect to what ought to be illegal. I think it ought to be illegal to dictate to a property owner who he must allow access to his property. You apparently want the law prevents property owners from controlling access to their own property.
    Thank you for confirming what I figured out a very long time ago --- you are all in favor of government when it benefits you and all against it when it imposes some obligation or duty upon you that the American people want but your extremist ideology objects to because it upsets the gospel of selfishness. True hypocrisy.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As I have already answered --- we would return to the horrors of the gilded age and life would get really really bad for scores of millions of Americans.
    we don't need all the violations of the tenth amendment that the left worships to prevent the things you complain about. what were the "horrors" of the gilded age hat you complain so much about?



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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for confirming what I figured out a very long time ago --- you are all in favor of government when it benefits you and all against it when it imposes some obligation or duty upon you that the American people want but your extremist ideology objects to because it upsets the gospel of selfishness. True hypocrisy.
    did not you make this same claim a few posts ago without any proof then too?



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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You could always exercise your ultimate right to find a nation more to your liking.
    Such as? What country is more conservative? And I mean classical conservative, so do your homework before you reply.

    In any case, living in CA where people are clueless liberals by default I very quickly learned to absolutely eat liberals for breakfast. Being conservative here requires direct action by ones self.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for confirming what I figured out a very long time ago --- you are all in favor of government when it benefits you and all against it when it imposes some obligation or duty upon you that the American people want but your extremist ideology objects to because it upsets the gospel of selfishness. True hypocrisy.
    Are you really trying to portray yourself as somehow different in this? Every single person in this entire world are all in favor of governments that benefit them and against those same governments when it imposes on them. Hell, thats the main reason that the US was born. Because some government tried to tell the Colonies what to do. It's also why there are several current civil wars going on in the world. Not to mention protests, civil disobediance etc etc. It's not hypocritical at all. It's human nature.
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