View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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  • The Right to Discriminate

    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So let me get this straight: government is the one which can provide a definitive determination to who actually owns property and you are willing to accept governments word on that and abide by the governments laws regarding that but when government decides other issues of property ownership and how it is to be used all the sudden its the mean old government which should stay out of your business?

    Got it loud and clear.

    Typical libertarian hypocrite wanting it both ways as it suits them.
    What is hard to grasp here? The govt should recognize private property (to the lefts dismay). That is not a green light to stick its nose into everything else (also to the lefts dismay).

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What is hard to grasp here? The govt should recognize private property (to the lefts dismay). That is not a green light to stick its nose into everything else (also to the lefts dismay).
    The owner of a piece of property ought to be the one who controls access to that property. Otherwise, what's the point?

    Of course the collectivists would like all property to be controlled by the government. Wannabe tyrants can't change their spots.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    who says the cops have to be called about it, anyway? He leaves or the morgue wagon can be called, he can take his pick, and it shouldn't matter if he's purple polka dotted. It's private property and the owne has told you to leave, you LEAVE, or else you never go anywhere, ever again.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Yes. And you advocate that the law interfere with the ability of your fellow American to control who has access to his property. In my book that's unethical and unjustified. A person ought to be able to control who has access to the property he owns.
    YOu want government in your life when it is to your advantage and then you want small government to stay out of your life when it is not to your liking. At least you are consistent with your past behaviors in this area.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What a stupid argument. Libertarians are not anarchists, there is legitimate use of government and contract is part of it.
    Yeah - I know - you love government when it provides you with advantages and benefits and hate it when it imposes some obligation or duty upon you.

    Nothing new given you are libertarians.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What is hard to grasp here? The govt should recognize private property (to the lefts dismay). That is not a green light to stick its nose into everything else (also to the lefts dismay).
    You could always exercise your ultimate right to find a nation more to your liking.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    YOu want government in your life when it is to your advantage and then you want small government to stay out of your life when it is not to your liking. At least you are consistent with your past behaviors in this area.
    that is nonsense.

    we libertarians want the government to act in the areas where it was properly delegated the power to do so. and that may or may not be in our "best interests" for a given action.



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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, it's appeal to authority, perchance it's time to learn your logical fallacies. Stupid arguments and emotional lashing out is not going to change it.
    Its an appeal to reality .... something libertarians hate and abhor. It is understandable that you cannot comprehend it.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is nonsense.

    we libertarians want the government to act in the areas where it was properly delegated the power to do so. and that may or may not be in our "best interests" for a given action.
    That is just what I said - when it benefits you it is proper in your view. Otherwise - not so much. Typical libertarian hypocrisy.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Its an appeal to reality .... something libertarians hate and abhor. It is understandable that you cannot comprehend it.
    why do you find libertarians so frightening?



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