View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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Thread: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discrimination?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    do you rabbitcaebannog accept the fact, you cannot exercise anyone of your rights.......on my property?


    emotionalism-----If groups like Cato succeed in their zeal to overthrow Civil Rights Law they may find themselves in a situation that may make it harder to privatize all things that exist in the name of freedom of choice. They will have to be called out on their blatant lies.
    Nah, just truth.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    There is no right to not be discriminated against. If there was then you would not be able to discriminate in who you are friends with and who you cannot be friends with. The government would decide who your friends are.
    In YOUR world, there is no right to not be discriminated against. But in the world that MOST Americans live in, we DO have a right to be free from discrimination. If you want to live somewhere that you can discriminate against others as you will, there's plenty of third-world nations where that's the norm.

    And your 'friends' claims are laughable - at NO point is there any kind of requirement that Thou Shalt Be Friends With Person X. That's just you bringing up yet another strawman.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Nah, just truth.
    deflect!

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bold: Didn't I already say that the cops violated that guys rights? How can I not be getting that when I agreed that they violated his rights? As for what rights they violated, I don't recall them being charged with violating "the black guys right to not be discriminated against". Could you point it out to me please?

    I notice that once again you (and others) have refused to show proof that people have a right to not be discriminated against.
    Again, in YOUR mind there's no such right...but in the minds of MOST Americans - and particularly in the minds of all those who fought for so long to be FREE from discrimination - there IS such a right...and they WILL fight for it, by any means necessary.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    In YOUR world, there is no right to not be discriminated against. But in the world that MOST Americans live in, we DO have a right to be free from discrimination. If you want to live somewhere that you can discriminate against others as you will, there's plenty of third-world nations where that's the norm.

    And your 'friends' claims are laughable - at NO point is there any kind of requirement that Thou Shalt Be Friends With Person X. That's just you bringing up yet another strawman.
    you sure do have a right...[ a civil right]........that government will not discriminate against you.....that however does not apply to a citizen.....

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Make sure you tell all your minority friends about what you think about how you have a "right" to discriminate, how freedom from discrimination means "violating the body and property of your fellow man", okay? Make sure you tell all of them that, y'hear?
    They all know that I respect them and that I don't think I have the right to violate their body or property to coerce them to trade with someone against their will.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so what your saying is, people should be free of bad behavior by other people...AT the expense, of those other peoples....RIGHTS.........so in your mind.......RIGHTS COME SECOND....even though the constitution puts them FIRST.
    Problem is, you and your fellows don't realize that it is also a BASIC RIGHT to not be discriminated against. You cannot claim that such is unconstitutional because when the Constitution was written, slavery was the norm - the idea of equality for anyone who wasn't a propertied white male was ludicrous. Fortunately, the Founding Fathers knew that changes would come, and that they had to set up the Constitution and our nation's laws in such a way that they could adapt to changing conditions.

    I know, I know, you'll never agree with that...but that's okay, because MOST Americans do...and MOST Americans will make sure it stays that way.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    deflect!
    No, I'm not. It was once said that giving power to unaccountable private industry is much like a tyranny in the sense the public has zero, nada, zip role in everything. You keep reinforcing how correct this point is, so I will thank you for that. I will also save many of these points being made by you and the Cato Institute for future reference. This has been a very constructive debate.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you sure do have a right...[ a civil right]........that government will not discriminate against you.....that however does not apply to a citizen.....
    Okay, guy, go ahead then - kick blacks out of your business and tell them that it's your civil right to not serve blacks in your business if you don't want to...and watch what happens.

    You won't even get any sympathy from Hannity or O'Reilly, much less from those of us on the left. You'd get less sympathy than the "Sovereign Citizen" wackos get. But don't let all that stop you, now - just go on and follow up in real life with what you're writing down here, y'hear?
    To do evil, a human being must first of all believe that what hes doing is good" - Solzhenitsyn

    "...with the terrorists, you have to take out their families." - Donald Trump

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    They all know that I respect them and that I don't think I have the right to violate their body or property to coerce them to trade with someone against their will.
    Suuuuuure they do. All your minority friends know that you support someone's "right" to discriminate against others because of their color/ethnicity/religion/sexual orientation...and they're all perfectly fine with that.

    Mm-hmm...riiiiiiiight.

    What's amazing is that you're actually expecting anyone here (except for maybe a few people who think just like you do) to buy that line you just tried to hand me.
    To do evil, a human being must first of all believe that what hes doing is good" - Solzhenitsyn

    "...with the terrorists, you have to take out their families." - Donald Trump

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