View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's never equal footing when someone can withhold resources from you due to something you can't change. That is called power over a person. That kind of power is illegal.
    So when the buyer withholds the resource of money from the seller due to an attribute that the seller can't change, it's illegal? Doesn't seem to be. But I agree that such is unequal, since you are saying that the buyer can and the seller can't.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Even though the government is forcing the doctors to engage in commerce against their will? What about their rights?
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    Yes, please do explain how it is a 'lesser' form of servitude for a doctor to render his labor than a merchant to sell his gas?
    1: People have a right to life, a doctor not treating them endangers that life. The government has a valid power in ensuring that people get medical attention.

    2: Most private doctors do not have the tools necessary to carry out life saving surgury in their clinics. As such they must send the patient to the hospital if such is needed. Those hospitals are generally called "community hospitals" for a reason. They are funded in large part due to contributions and government monies. Which makes them public hospitals and therefore under the same mandate that any other government institution would be regarding discrimination. Not allowed to.

    This applies to any privately owned business also. If you take money from the government then you are in essence employed by the government to provide a service, as such you are under the same mandate of non-discimination.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    My statement was for others, not you. I don't expect you to understand, and I don't care what you understand and don't.
    I asked you whether you think you have the right to violate the body or property of your fellow man in order to coerce him to trade with someone against his will.

    At least I take comfort in the fact that you refuse to answer.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong, i am an individual person, not a government i can discriminate if i wish, i don't have to like you sell you trade to deal with you in any way.

    you unfortunately, do not believe in the rights of the people........and do not recolonize right to property or association

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    Just because you're an "individual person" (which also applies to ALL other people) doesn't give you some kind of "right" to discriminate against others. If a thing you do does deliberate harm to other people - as discrimination certainly does - then you do NOT somehow have a right to do that thing.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    1: People have a right to life, a doctor not treating them endangers that life. The government has a valid power in ensuring that people get medical attention.
    You support universal socialized healthcare?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    At least I take comfort in the fact that you refuse to answer.
    I bet you do that often.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You support universal socialized healthcare?
    Actually I do. Why?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Just because you're an "individual person" (which also applies to ALL other people) doesn't give you some kind of "right" to discriminate against others. If a thing you do does deliberate harm to other people - as discrimination certainly does - then you do NOT somehow have a right to do that thing.
    What harm is there in not selling someone an ipod just because they're <insert skin color here>?

    And as I've pointed out several times already, people do have a right to disciminate. I've even named the Rights that we have that support it.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually I do. Why?
    Just checking to see if you're always inconsistent, or only in claiming that no harm is done by refusing service.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually a person does have that right. Via free speech, freedom of association, the right to boycott, and the right to private property.
    I'm sure that's probably how the Nazi's probably felt, too: "We have a right to tell the Jews that no, we don't want to do business with them!".

    But in reality, you have no such right except for in your mind and in the minds of those who believe as you do.
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