View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Polish descent. You're an American with a Polish name. Can I refuse to do business with you?
    Names are not a protected class

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Names are not a protected class
    You said national origin. If you have a Polish name, you are of Polish descent.


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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You said national origin. If you have a Polish name, you are of Polish descent.

    Then you are protected, but not because of your name, but nationality.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Polish descent. You're an American with a Polish name. Can I refuse to do business with you?
    Sure, why not? Your name is difficult to pronounce, therefore you obviously aren't one of us! Next question?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You said national origin. If you have a Polish name, you are of Polish descent.

    A history of refusing service to Pollocks would in fact be an unacceptable discrimination. However if you only discriminated against one Pollock, with no dialog to say otherwise, it'd be assumed it was for some other acceptable reason.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Then you are protected, but not because of your name, but nationality.
    So let me get this straight. Based on all your posts, it's okay to refuse to enter into commerce with blonde women (because they aren't a protected class), but nobody else, including white men who are 5th generation descendants of Polish people?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    A history of refusing service to Pollocks would in fact be an unacceptable discrimination. However if you only discriminated against one Pollock, with no dialog to say otherwise, it'd be assumed it was for some other acceptable reason.
    What is a "Pollock"?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Look - I have a degree in Political Science..... what the heck is body sovereignty and what does it have to do with bigotry being a key part of human rights?
    Every last right you will find is your property and they are all yours to do with as you please. All rights are based on body sovereignty and extend to everything in which the body acts upon. Therefore, all your rights, be that, the right to life, liberty, or estate, are born from property, or more to the point, the right to your own body and it's facilities. With this knowledge of your ownership of your person you will discover, as I have said, that if we were to go down the list of rights that all of them give you complete control and all of them are discriminatory in nature; in that, no one can act upon your person or property without your permission.

    The fact is discrimination is an essential part of human rights and has to be protected to protect human rights. You just live in this world where somehow acting on the person or property of another is justified because they are practicing their rights in a way you don't like. It's kind of stupid, imho.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So let me get this straight. Based on all your posts, it's okay to refuse to enter into commerce with blonde women (because they aren't a protected class), but nobody else, including white men who are 5th generation descendants of Polish people?
    Actually yes, though if for some reason blondes were being regularly discriminated against in a particular venue(s), then I would guess there would be a goal to end that as well. Let us know when you're refused service for being blonde, and be sure to include context so we are sure it isn't just because you're annoying as hell.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What is a "Pollock"?
    A person of Polish decent is a Pollock.
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