View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The law does exist for the first 3 mentioned.
    And why not for the last one?

    And the problem is, there's a lot of people in America today - and on this forum - who want to get rid of that law for the first three.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Which is more important: the "right" to discriminate, or freedom from discrimination?

    Remember, you can't have both. If a business refuses to serve someone because he's black, and he refuses to leave and the business calls the cops to enforce their "right"...it is at that moment that we have government-enforced racism.

    Is that really what we want?
    I question that there is a RIGHT to discriminate for the sake of discrimination.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    ...because they don't have a history of discrimination.
    And you know this how? That's a pretty broad statement to make. Are you telling me that blonde women have always been treated equally in this country?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And why not for the last one?

    And the problem is, there's a lot of people in America today - and on this forum - who want to get rid of that law for the first three.
    My guess is there will be one for the last group.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Nice try. The law doesn't have to specifically name every instance when the spirit and obvious intent of the law would show that one can't discriminate for a person's hair color.

    Look, you'll always be able to come up with those "what about this or that" situation...but you can't use that in order to invalidate the whole thing. While those situations will very rarely happen, the vast majority of the time the law will work for the vast majority of the people. That's what's important.

    I thought we were all equal? Now I'm being told it would be okay to refuse service to someone strictly because she is blonde (like myself, for instance). What law protects me? And please don't pretend people don't dislike people from all walks of life. I know people here in New England who detest white men from Alabama, call them stupid, rednecks and losers. Is that okay?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No right to pick sex partners then? Strange.
    That's not the type of discrimination we're talking about. I suspect you're well aware of that.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And you know this how? That's a pretty broad statement to make. Are you telling me that blonde women have always been treated equally in this country?
    Perhaps, not so much due to hair color but more so for gender, hence protection laws for sex.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Perhaps, not so much due to hair color but more so for gender, hence protection laws for sex.
    You have no idea how many people make decisions based on certain attributes. Look at all of the blonde jokes out there.

    Is it okay to refuse to do business with a white Polish person because you think Polish people are stupid?

    By the way, I've put up with blonde comments for years. And one of my co-workers admitted to me once that when he first saw me, he didn't want to work with me because he assumed I wasn't smart enough for the task. So it happens more than you think.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You have no idea how many people make decisions based on certain attributes. Look at all of the blonde jokes out there.

    Is it okay to refuse to do business with a white Polish person because you think Polish people are stupid?

    By the way, I've put up with blonde comments for years. And one of my co-workers admitted to me once that when he first saw me, he didn't want to work with me because he assumed I wasn't smart enough for the task. So it happens more than you think.
    National origin is protected too.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    National origin is protected too.
    Polish descent. You're an American with a Polish name. Can I refuse to do business with you?

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