View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If he leaves his business he loses his business. Which is a part of his property.
    If he doesn't want to leave his business no one is forcing him.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, I agree. There are times SCOTUS has ruled incorrectly, but I disagree this is the case here.
    Because it fits your pov? There is nothing in the Constitution which allows the government to force people to provide service to others. If the Constitution does not give the government the power to do something then it is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    If he doesn't want to leave his business no one is forcing him.
    So you forcing him/her to either serve people that he/she doesn't want to or give up his/her lively hood. Much like the Obamacare mandate that isn't really a valid choice. Either way you are forcing the owner to do SOMETHING in order to promote your own form of discrimination.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Because it fits your pov? There is nothing in the Constitution which allows the government to force people to provide service to others. If the Constitution does not give the government the power to do something then it is unconstitutional.
    You're treating people as equals which is in the 14th amendment.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So you forcing him/her to either serve people that he/she doesn't want to or give up his/her lively hood. Much like the Obamacare mandate that isn't really a valid choice. Either way you are forcing the owner to do SOMETHING in order to promote your own form of discrimination.
    Its discrimination to treat people as equals?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You're treating people as equals which is in the 14th amendment.
    Again, that only deals with government.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You're treating people as equals which is in the 14th amendment.
    The 14th is about treating people equally under the law. Unless businesses make laws now a days instead of our Congress and Senate then the 14th does not apply to this situation in the way that you want it to.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Its discrimination to treat people as equals?
    But you're not treating people as equals. You are favoring consumers over the people that own a business and their right to freedom of association.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But you're not treating people as equals. You are favoring consumers over the people that own a business and their right to freedom of association.
    Just to expand on this: If a consumer walks into a store and sees that the owner of the store is of a race that they are racist over they are free to leave, no legal course exists to prevent that. If the owner sees a person of a race they are racist against and refuses service then there is legal recourse for that consumer. Who here is favored?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The 14th is about treating people equally under the law. Unless businesses make laws now a days instead of our Congress and Senate then the 14th does not apply to this situation in the way that you want it to.
    There is a law which is the civil rights law.

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